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Or war with the Catholics.

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Rugby pod.

Welcome to the Foscast today.

We are talking all things football versus rugby.

Are they the same same are there any similarities

whatsoever we're about to find out to mattie you good to go yeah absolutely we have got some

some heavy hitters in the podcasting and the rugby and the football world there damn bigger and

igu jim hamilton yourself and then the old lembs under 10 player of the season

still claiming it still you've got the trophies, though? Always. All right, what we're starting with, Tom. We're going to start with salaries, football. Money. Straight in. We're sat in order already, so, well, actually, we need to swap myself and scooty around a little bit. And we'd be in the right order, I think. I think one interesting thing which we spoke about before, when you represented England, Ben, you didn't know that you got paid. Because I remember being at your house in Manchester, got to be 20 years ago, and a check came through the post from M&S. Yes. And it was like a sponsorship. I think it was like five grand or something.

And you were like, oh, that's a bonus. That was a commercial thing. But you also get paid.

Yeah. So we used to get, so it would be really interesting to find out, actually, if you actually get paid for England and the Lions as well, would you get paid for going away with lines, right? So when I first found

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