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Mormon Stories Podcast

1399: Contemplative Mormonism - Jana Spangler Pt. 2

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2021

⏱️ 137 minutes

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Summary

Is it possible to stay active in the LDS Church in 2021 after....

....learning all of the problematic history... ....becoming an ally for LGBTQ Mormons... ...becoming a feminist... ...becoming an "intellectual Mormon"... and after losing one's orthodox faith?

More importantly, why would anyone WANT to?

In Part 1 of my two-part interview with dear friend and faith transitions coach Jana Spangler, Jana told us the story of her Mormon faith journey, which includes:

  • Battling with perfectionism as an LDS teen and young adult.
  • Feeling broken and inadequate as a single Mormon woman attending the University Utah, struggling to meet the church's standards of "worthiness."
  • Being threatened with an LDS Disciplinary Council be a well-meaning Mormon bishop, and how that actually HELPED turn Jana's life around at the time.
  • Finding and marrying Rob - who "checked all the Mormon boxes" at the time.
  • Batting with infertility.
  • Experiencing self-doubt and depression as a Mormon Mom.
  • How Jana's passion for self-improvement and retreats/workshops led to a Mormon faith crisis.
  • Jana's shifting views of Christ's atonement, which include absolute, unconditional love.
  • Jana's courage to share her testimony struggles with her Holladay, Utah ward and stake.
  • How untraditional Mormon podcast hosts, authors, and organizations (such as Bill Reel, Gina Colvin, Dan Wotherspoon, John Dehlin, Thomas Wirthlin McConkie, Sunstone, etc.), along with a supportive husband and understanding church leaders, helped Jana find a way to stay ACTIVE in the LDS Church.
  • What factors led Jana to decide to stay active in the LDS Church...for now.

In Part 2, Jana provides a more detailed framework for how others can find a way to remain active in the LDS Church if they so desire, inspired by the works of Richard Rohr and James Fowler (among others).

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome back to part two of my interview with Janice Bengler. I'm John DeLin. This is Mormon Stories podcast

0:06.5

We are here for part two of my interview with Janice

0:09.6

We just spent three hours talking about her story talking about her never feeling good enough in the Mormon Church

0:16.3

plagued by perfectionism then her massive faith crisis how

0:21.6

oddly progressive

0:23.6

marginal

0:25.0

alternative unapproved Mormon podcasts and

0:28.5

Sunstone and workshops of retreats actually helped her stay in the church along with a supportive husband and

0:36.7

a decently supportive warden stake and it was a great story

0:41.3

really inspiring and

0:43.3

We ended with this discussion about

0:46.8

How hard it can be to work on the margins within a religion like Mormonism and with Jada basically saying she wants to

0:54.8

And has been working to be a part of the solution on the margins and so what we're gonna do now is spend a couple hours

1:02.7

talking about why someone might want to do this and

1:06.7

how someone might approach

1:09.8

What we're calling

1:12.0

Contemplative Mormonism we're gonna try out the branding of a new term

1:16.6

We're not gonna call progressive Mormonism. We're not gonna call liberal Mormonism

1:20.2

We're gonna call today Contemplative Mormonism, but we're basically just gonna pick Janice Brain and

1:26.4

See if there's anyone out there who's wanting to stay in the Church of Jesus Christ on any saints

1:32.2

They've had a faith crisis or they're in a faith crisis or they're long past and faith crisis

1:36.8

Maybe they've even left and we're gonna explore why someone might want to

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