Three, two. Okay, so very nice to meet you and very your book is fantastic. I really

really loved it and it's kind of hilarious how this conversation came about. You said you got a call from your publicist because your audio book spiked.

It spiked like crazy. It was like, what cosmic dust in the outer bands of Jupiter just did that? Because we don't figure out what it was. It just spiked like crazy. Went nuts.

I think it went to number one briefly. So he thought what did that anyway? And was from an Instagram post it was and you were see my friend Steve

Ronella wrote a book called American Buffalo and I had put on Instagram how great the book was and he did the

audio version of it and a friend of mine on Instagram he goes by the name of

the jackalope he's a fellow Hunter-S Thompson enthusiast.

He said, you got to read this book.

And so he tells me to read your book.

And Empire of the Summer Moon,

that's his head.

And it was amazing I mean he was absolutely right and it was so

good and I made an Instagram post about that there it is oh we got a copy of it

look at that ladies and gentlemen. It's a fantastic book. There's so much

good stuff in there. And I just, it was, it was so sad and so gripping and so riveting and we all know that a lot of horrific things

happened in the time where the settlers started making their way

across the plains and headed west but God you just did such a fantastic job of

sort of bringing it to life.

It's all those things.

It's brutal, it's sad, it's incredibly dramatic.

It's, I mean, I just think people forget about what the frontier was.

It's kind of a nice idea that you get on TV or something, but it was a

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