#1395 The Few and the Many

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Society & Culture, History

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🗓️ 16 June 2020

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

This week author and historian Joseph J. Ellis and Thomas Jefferson Hour creator Clay S. Jenkinson extend their ongoing conversation about the Jefferson-Adams relationship. They discuss the views of the 2 men on the relationship between "the few and the many". Jefferson says that this inequality has occurred throughout history, and asks what America must do about it to make our society the most equalitarian state that it can possibly be.

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0:00.0	Good Day Thomas Jefferson, Our podcast listeners and welcome to this week's show.
0:06.4	We're going to have something different this week.
0:11.4	We're going to include our guest from the show to talk about the show,
0:17.0	Professor Joseph Ellis, who has given me permission to call him Joe, and hey Joe. Hey there, hi David. So the subject this
0:28.4	week was fascinating. You talked about the few and the many.
0:33.0	We did and you know one of the things that struck me Joe is that we've done about six of these conversations in the last month now and
0:40.0	this is the first time your dog has really raised a ruckus every time you said some crazy atoms-like thing your dogs barked in agreement I think.
0:48.0	Yeah, I got two big labordoodles here at one of them is really old and they can't see but they're laying right
0:57.3	behind me and I think a car went by or something.
1:01.3	Or a truck. Nevertheless, I've enjoyed this and thank you very much for allowing me into this podcast.
1:07.3	Oh, our pleasure. David, we've been getting some mail about Joseph Ellis and these conversations?
1:14.0	Yeah, well we got a couple and we got one from Dave Beatles who has written to us a number of times and I always read his email and he's he listens on a he
1:27.0	listens to the podcast version and he was a little upset with a show recently where you sort of asked a provocative question
1:36.0	Clay it was like which president would you want to be in charge during the pandemic.
1:44.0	Right, and Joe said that maybe John Kennedy or, you know, maybe FDR or maybe Theodore Roosevelt,
1:50.0	and then I said, which president would you least want to be in control?
1:54.0	Well I have a suspicion that Dave Beatles wrote this email after listening to the show.
1:59.0	You can tell by the typos he was a little upset.
2:01.0	Anyway, he writes, if Trump had taken national control, you the type of
2:07.0	was he was a little upset anyway he writes if Trump had taken national control you would have not been happy either on TV today the governor is of
2:08.3	Oklahoma saying start the opening phase yet the mayor of Norman Oklahoma says no all politics are local why because
2:17.2	situations are different in different cities any response to that of course all
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