1391 Michael Cohen returns for a thoughtful conversation
Stand Up! with Pete Dominick
Pete Dominick
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🗓️ 3 July 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Michael A. Cohen has been a columnist for the Boston Globe on national politics and foreign affairs since 2014. He is also the author of “American Maelstrom: The 1968 Election and the Politics of Division,” “Live From the Campaign Trail: The Greatest Presidential Campaign Speeches of the 20th Century and How They Shaped Modern America” and is the co-author with Micah Zenko of “Clear and Present Safety: The World Has Never Been Better and Why That Matters to Americans.” Michael has written for dozens of news outlets, including as a regular columnist for the Guardian, Foreign Policy, the London Observer, and World Politics Review. He previously worked as a speechwriter at the US State Department, on Capitol Hill, and at NBC; was a Senior Fellow at the New America Foundation and a fellow at the Century Foundation, the American Security Project, and the World Policy Institute; and has also been a lecturer at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm on partial vacation. So there will not be a hangout tonight. Sorry about that, but I'm doing a bit of a staycation where I'm posting interviews every day. So I'm kind of working, but I'm not doing the full rest of my work daily and weekly. And I'm staying home and trying to do things I don't normally do and not spend too much money. |
| 0:24.4 | And so tomorrow I head down to West Virginia to give my annual talk to young people who are interested in environmentalism and sustainability. |
| 0:32.3 | That would be particularly challenging this year, but I'm always excited to be around Jen Ziers and anyone |
| 0:37.8 | younger, significantly younger than me, almost 50. But other than that, I'm chilling and I am |
| 0:45.4 | hanging out. So I appreciate you giving me a little bit of a break this week from the news |
| 0:50.4 | segment and much of the rest of the other work I do. I will be continuing to bring these conversations, though, like this one today, with Michael |
| 0:58.6 | Cohen, who I absolutely love. |
| 1:00.0 | We had a great conversation, Michael and I. |
| 1:02.6 | You should follow him at truth and consequences.substack.com. |
| 1:08.0 | And he's got a new piece over at MSNBC as well about the big, bad, beautiful bill that should have passed by the time you get this podcast, unfortunately, this episode, because it's happening right now. |
| 1:22.3 | And I say, unfortunately, meaning that it passed because it's a horror show. |
| 1:26.1 | It's a evil, awful, terrible thing that Republicans |
| 1:30.5 | have done. I wrote a little something that I want to read. I posted it on Facebook and maybe I'll |
| 1:35.4 | post it up on substack. I'm not much of a of a great writer. That's for sure. I just like to |
| 1:41.7 | ramble on and talk. But I'm'm just outraged really outraged by this |
| 1:46.2 | as i'm sure you are what i wrote was my outrage today is dedicated to those who do not believe |
| 1:51.7 | health care should be a human right in america the way it is everywhere else especially if you |
| 1:56.4 | call yourself religious i think that if you sit at home look at porn play video games and eat |
| 2:00.7 | crappy food i still believe you should get access to health care. If you do all these things |
| 2:05.4 | and you're also an asshole on top of it, I still think you should get health care. I think |
| 2:10.3 | that because I think all humans should have access to basic health insurance and health care, |
| 2:15.5 | especially in the richest country in the world. |
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