139. Opposing Views: Immigration | Alex Nowrasteh & Mark Krikorian

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Mikhaila Peterson

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🗓️ 25 February 2022

⏱️ 88 minutes

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In this episode of Opposing Views, Mikhaila hosts Alex Nowrasteh (Director of Economic and Social Policy at Cato Institute) and Mark Krikorian (Executive Director at the Center for Immigration Studies) to discuss their perspectives on immigration. We covered (il)legal immigration and how it relates to religious differences, crime, education, visas, the economy, and much more. If you enjoyed this conversation, be sure to subscribe! ______________ Read “Open Immigration: Yea & Nay” by Alex Nowrasteh and Mark Krikorian https://amazon.com/Open-Immigration-Encounter-Broadsides-Book-ebook/dp/B00PJ2JUAA/ref=sr_1_2?qid=1643920262&refinements=p_27%3AMark+Krikorian&s=digital-text&sr=1-2&text=Mark+Krikorian Follow Mark Krikorian: https://twitter.com/MarkSKrikorian Check out his books: https://amazon.com/Mark-Krikorian/e/B001JOYV5Q?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1643919097&sr=1-1 Center for Immigration Studies: https://cis.org Follow Alex Nowrasteh: https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh Check out his books: https://amazon.com/Alex-Nowrasteh/e/B00R07CPR2?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_2&qid=1643919387&sr=1-2 Cato Institute: https://cato.org ______________ Follow Me ______________ All Platforms: https://linktr.ee/mikhailapeterson Facebook: https://facebook.com/mikhailapeterson Twitter: https://twitter.com/MikhailaAleksis Instagram: https://instagram.com/mikhailapeterson Telegram channel: https://t.me/mikhailapeterson ______________ Chapters ______________ [00:00] Intro [02:15] Krikorian's Views [03:30] Mass Immigration [05:14] Slowing Down [07:58] Immigration Policy [10:54] Krikorian Addresses Nowrasteh [13:55] Skilled Workers I [16:52] Restrictive Immigration [21:28] Immigration & Crime [22:22] Sanctuaries I [24:40] Illegal Immigrants I [25:56] The Immigration Reform and Control Act [27:25] Illegal Immigration Systems [31:34] Overstaying Visas [33:59] Sanctuaries II [38:35] Adjusting Policies [39:25] Immigration & Donuts [40:12] Intro to Alex Nowrasteh [41:42] Nowrasteh's Views [42:33] Relative Wage Gains [45:09] Immigration & Freedom [47:51] Education [49:57] Religious Differences [54:34] Illegal Immigrants II [56:47] In Hindsight… [59:50] Comparing Views [01:02:59] Increased Supply & Entrepreneurship [01:04:21] Skilled Workers II [01:08:51] Immigration & Crime [01:13:27] Conviction Rates [01:14:23] Skilled Workers III [01:15:54] Visas [01:19:41] Immigration & Chaos [01:26:41] Outro #MikhailaPeterson #Visas #Crime #OpposingViews #Immigration Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	the average wage gain for an immigrant coming to the United States is a four-fold increase,
0:07.2	and that person's wages. And that's because that person is more productive here in the United
0:12.5	States because we have economic freedom, we have some political freedom, and as a result,
0:18.5	that allows people to be more productive. Mass immigration is not compatible with the goals
0:24.8	and characteristics of a modern society in a way that wasn't necessarily true 100 or 200
0:30.1	years ago. Again, it's not because the immigrants are somehow inferior to your grandma who came
0:35.5	from Sicily or anything like that, it's that we have changed fundamentally.
0:43.6	Welcome to episode 139 of the Michaela Peterson podcast. I'm Michaela Peterson. I have a headset
0:49.9	on because I am backstage in Boston at one of my dad's shows, and these are very difficult to
0:55.0	like figure out how to get on and off with all this hair, so I'm keeping it on, and this is the time
0:59.3	I have to do an intro. So, this is an opposing views episode. Opposing views is where I bring on two
1:07.1	experts with opposing views on a generally contentious subject. Alex Narasta and Mark McCoria
1:15.4	came on to discuss immigration. Alex Narasta is the director of immigration studies at the Cato
1:21.2	Institute and author of several books, including the most common arguments against immigration and
1:26.4	why they're wrong. My second guest was Mark Cricorian, an expert on immigration and the executive
1:32.6	director at the Center for Immigration Studies, an independent nonpartisan research group established
1:38.4	in DC in 1985 to provide fact-based immigration research. Quick shout out to these bad boys carnivore
1:47.6	crisps. We have a code in the show notes, but these guys are literally feeding my dad and I on this
1:57.4	tour, feeding us. I cannot recommend them enough. It's just meat and salt. It's one of the only
2:03.9	things I can eat this package. Thank you, carnivore crisps. Enjoy this episode.
2:13.2	Alex Narasta, welcome to my podcast. Thank you for having me. Before we get started,
2:18.7	can you give a brief background about who you are and what it is you do? Sure, so I am an
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