I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that his story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning

that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hi, everybody.

Welcome back to the Soberful podcast.

My name is Veronica Valley.

And mine is Chip Summers.

So today we are going to be talking about a subject that is incredibly

sensitive and it's going to be triggering for people. So I want to just give you this warning

before we start. This is a subject that has been suggested to us by a few of our

soberful life members. And it's something that

it's very hard to talk about. So we are going to be talking about sexual abuse because it's an

issue that unfortunately many, many, many of our clients have struggled with. It's not something that gets talked about

much. And we want to talk about this from the perspective of somebody, Chip, who is a survivor

and me as a therapist who has worked with many people who've experienced this and experienced some milder sexual trauma. This is going to be

triggering for people. So we want to just let you know if you are listening to this and this is a

subject that affects you to take care of yourself, to support yourself. It might be something

that you listen to in chunks that you don't

listen to in one go, that you think about what you're going to do after you've listened to this.

So you might want to make sure you have a support meeting or a friend that you can call or somebody

that you can be with. So we want to give you this one.

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