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The History of Literature

138 Why Poetry (with Matthew Zapruder)

The History of Literature

Jacke Wilson

Arts, History, Books

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2018

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

In his new book Why Poetry, the poet Matthew Zapruder has issued "an impassioned call for a return to reading poetry and an incisive argument for its accessibility to all readers." The poet Robert Hass says, "Zapruder on poetry is pure pleasure. His prose is so direct that you have the impression, sentence by sentence, that you are being told simple things about a simple subject and by the end of each essay you come to understand that you've been on a very rich, very subtle tour of what's aesthetically and psychologically amazing about the art of poetry."  In this episode, Matthew Zapruder joins Jacke for a discussion on why poetry is often misunderstood, and how readers can clear away the misconceptions and return to an appreciation for the charms and power of poetry. Along the way, they discuss poems by W.H. Auden, Brenda Hillman, and John Keats, and the views of critics like Harold Bloom, Giambattista Vico, Ludwig Wittgenstein, and Paul Valery. Help support the show at patreon.com/literature or historyofliterature.com/shop. Learn more about the show at historyofliterature.com or facebook.com/historyofliterature. Contact the host at jackewilsonauthor@gmail.com or via our new Twitter handle, @thejackewilson.   *** This show is a part of the Podglomerate network, a company that produces, distributes, and monetizes podcasts. We encourage you to visit the website and sign up for our newsletter for more information about our shows, launches, and events. For more information on how The Podglomerate treats data, please see our Privacy Policy.  Since you're listening to The History of Literature, we'd like to suggest you also try other Podglomerate shows surrounding literature, history, and storytelling like Storybound, Micheaux Mission, and The History of Standup. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The The talent that poets have is that they just remember in some deep

0:20.6

out ofistic part of themselves,

0:22.6

like the meanings of those words and their providences

0:26.4

and their connections, and they have this instinctive.

0:28.7

I mean, I have an almost mystical belief in this.

0:31.2

Language is our collective knowledge. We're not aware of those things

0:35.8

consciously for the most part, but we know that. We know it. Yeah.

0:40.4

somewhere. So, and poets are just people who know it to have a deeper sense of those things, I think.

0:46.1

And it's just cracks me up when I was, you know, people say like, you know, they think that what makes somebody poet is that they're more sensitive than other people.

0:54.8

Emotional, it's like now, I mean most of the poets are monsters.

0:58.9

You know, they're completely like, they're completely jerks and they're not more emotional or sensitive or or

1:04.4

whatever than other people I mean and it's it's that they it's this it has to do with

1:09.1

their relationship to language. That's Matthew Zeproeder discussing the special relationship that poets have to language.

1:18.0

We'll talk to the poet and professor about his new book, Why Poetry, today on the History of Literature. Okay, here we go. Welcome to the program. I'm Jack Wilson. We have an incredible show today.

1:47.0

Matthew Zeprouter is here. Matthew's a professor. He was the editor of the New York Times magazine's poetry page, he's written four books of poetry himself,

1:57.0

and he has some ideas, ideas that mean something, especially for those of us who love literature and who love poetry, and who are maybe

2:06.0

a little bit confused. Confused at why poetry has the particular reputation it does, at least here in America, at least in the wider culture.

2:17.0

I don't think we really get poetry.

2:19.0

We as a culture, we as individuals, we're not absorbing it in the way we could be.

2:24.5

Matthew has identified three reasons for why that might be many has some solutions for what will help us out.

2:31.3

Let's bring poetry back people.

2:33.0

Let's revive it. Let's reanimate it. Let's stand breast to breast with the

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