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The History of the Christian Church

138-Liberal v Evangelical

The History of the Christian Church

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 21 August 2016

⏱️ 16 minutes

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The title of this 138th episode is Liberal v EvangelicalIn our last episode, we considered the philosophical roots of Theological Liberalism. In this, we name names as we look at its early leaders and innovators.When I took a philosophy course in college, the professor dispensed on us sorry, unwashed noobs his understanding of faith and reason. After a lengthy description of both, he concluded by saying that faith and reason had absolutely nothing to do with each other. Reason dealt with the evidential, that which was perceived by the senses, and what logic concluded were rationally consistent conclusions drawn from that evidence. Faith, he declaimed, was a belief in spite of the evidence. When I asked if he was thus saying faith was irrational, he just smiled.That professor was an adherent of Immanuel Kant’s philosophy. In Kant’s work Critique of Pure Reason, published in 1781, Kant argued reason is able to comprehend anything in the realm of space and time; what he called the phenomenal realm. But reason is useless in accessing the noumenal, or spiritual realm transcending time and space.Kant didn’t argue against the existence of the spiritual realm. He simply said it’s only something we can experience by feelings. We can’t really THINK about it in the sense that it touches the rational mind.Traditional, orthodox Christians pushed back against the Kantian view of faith as feeling by reminding themselves Jesus said the greatest command was to love God with all they had, including their minds. But liberals found in Kant’s philosophy a justification for unhitching reason from faith and for allowing modern people to live in a secular world while still enjoying the benefits of religious sentiments about ultimate meaning. In other words, it allowed them to get along content with the WHAT of life in the world, without having to bother much with the HOW, or concern themselves at all with WHY.A few years after the publication of Kant’s Critique, the German theologian Friedrich Schleiermacher, going against the heart and soul of Christian apologetics dating back hundreds of years, said the heart of Christian Faith isn’t a historical event, like the Resurrection. It was, he argued, a feeling of one’s absolute dependence on a reality beyond one’s self. That awareness, he claimed, could be developed to the point where a person would be able to imitate Jesus’ own good deeds.He wrote, “The true nature of religion is immediate consciousness of Deity as found in ourselves and the world.” This earned Schleiermacher the title, Father of Theological Liberalism.Schleiermacher was born in a pious Moravian home, but as a young man, he imbibed the rationalism of the Enlightenment and became an ardent apologist for accommodating Christianity to popular society. As a professor of the newly founded University of Berlin, he insisted debates over proofs of God’s existence, the authority of Scripture, and the possibility of miracles weren’t the issues they ought to focus on. He said that the heart of religion had always been feeling, rather than rational proofs. God is not a theory used to explain the universe. Rather, God is to be experienced as a living reality. For Schleiermacher, religion isn’t a creed to be pondered by the rational mind. It’s based on intuition and a feeling of dependence.Orthodox Christians who identified religion with creedal doctrines, Schleiermacher maintained, would lose the battle for the Faith in the Modern world because those creeds were no longer rationally acceptable. Religion needed to find a new base. He located it in feelings.Sin, Schleiermacher said, was the result of people living by themselves, isolated from others. To overcome the sin that makes man independent from God and others, God sent a mediator in Jesus Christ. Christ’s uniqueness wasn’t in doctrines about his virgin birth or deity. No à What made Jesus a Mediator who can help us is the perfect example he was of one u

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0:00.0

Welcome to the history of the Christian Church, Season 1 with Lance Rolston.

0:15.5

The title of this 138 episode is Liberal versus Evangelical.

0:23.6

In our last episode, we considered the philosophical roots of theological liberalism, and in this, we name names as we look at its early leaders and

0:29.3

innovators. When I took a philosophy course in college, the professor dispensed on a sorry,

0:35.3

unwashed noobs, his understanding of faith and reason. After a

0:39.6

lengthy description of both, he concluded by saying that faith and reason had absolutely nothing to do

0:45.7

with each other. Reason dealt with the evidential, that which is perceived by the senses and what

0:51.4

logic concluded were rationally consistent conclusions drawn from

0:56.2

that evidence. Faith, he declaimed, was belief in spite of evidence. When I asked if he was

1:04.1

thus saying that faith was irrational, he just smiled. That professor was an inherent of Emmanuel Kant's philosophy. In Kant's work,

1:13.3

Critique of Pure Reason, which was published in 1781, he argued that reason is able to comprehend

1:19.4

anything in the realm of space and time, what he called the phenomenal realm. But reason, he said,

1:25.0

is useless in accessing the numinal or the spiritual realm transcending time and space.

1:30.8

Kant didn't argue against the existence of the spiritual realm.

1:33.9

He simply said that it's only something that we can experience by feelings.

1:38.3

We can't really think about it in the sense that it touches the rational mind.

1:44.0

Traditional Orthodox Christians pushed back against the Kantian view of faith, this feeling,

1:49.0

by reminding themselves that Jesus said the greatest commandment was to love God with all that they had,

1:54.0

including their minds.

1:56.0

But liberals found in Kant's philosophy a justification for unhitching reason from faith and for allowing modern people to live in a secular world while still enjoying the benefits of religious sentiments about ultimate meaning.

2:10.6

In other words, it allowed them to get along content with the what of life in the world without having to bother much with the how or concern themselves

2:20.4

at all with why. A few years after the publication of Kant's critique, the German theologian

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