#138 Is Christian Nationalism a Real Problem or an Overblown Strawman? with Neil Shenvi
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Alisa Childers
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🗓️ 6 February 2022
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Christian Nationalism is a phrase we see everywhere, but what exactly does it mean? Neil Shenvi joins me to define terms, and discuss Christian Nationalism from a biblical perspective. He also shares his review of the book, "Taking America Back for God," which is an analysis of Christian Nationalism in America.
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| 0:00.0 | Let's bring the temperature down and say rather than using these labels indiscriminately, |
| 0:05.6 | let's be precisely to find our terms and let's focus on the ideas not the labels we use to describe |
| 0:12.0 | them. If we're going to call out this form of Christian nationalism, then why not this other form? |
| 0:17.1 | It seems a lot like it. |
| 0:35.3 | Welcome to the Elisa Childers podcast. We have Nielsen V with us again. Today we're going to talk about |
| 0:41.6 | Christian nationalism. We're going to talk about white Christian nationalism. What do these phrases |
| 0:46.2 | mean? Where are we seeing this? We're going to take a biblical look. We're going to analyze it. Niel, |
| 0:52.0 | welcome back. So glad that you've joined us again. Thanks, Elisa. Good to be here. Yeah. So I was |
| 0:58.4 | talking with you before we went on the air. And one of the reasons I wanted to talk about Christian |
| 1:04.0 | nationalism is because a lot of people will say, hey, you're always critiquing progressive Christianity. |
| 1:08.1 | Why don't you critique Christian nationalism? And at first I was like, well, I haven't really studied |
| 1:14.4 | that. I don't know really what it is. And people would give very different definitions. So I've been |
| 1:19.7 | trying to think about it over the past several months trying to process what it is. And I want to |
| 1:25.6 | talk with you about it today. So let's define. We did this last time. We defined our terms first. |
| 1:31.3 | So, Niel, what is Christian? Or maybe we can just define like maybe nationalism. Then we can put |
| 1:38.0 | it with Christian nationalism. And then we're sort of evolves into this. What we hear, white Christian |
| 1:42.8 | nationalism. What do these terms mean? Sure. I just googled it. Right. Because I agree that people |
| 1:47.7 | just throw these terms around. I'm like, well, how are they defined in dictionaries? How are they |
| 1:52.4 | defined just colloquially? Because, okay, sometimes words in the dictionaries are defined in one way, |
| 1:56.8 | but people use them differently. So I think these definitions are consistent with what I hear. |
| 2:03.1 | So nationalism means, it's quote, identification with one's own nation and support for its |
| 2:09.0 | interest, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations. Okay, so it's, |
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