Design has become a critical element in software.

Back in the 90s, it was fine to produce and sell Battleship Grey apps that worked but did not do much to delight.

Today, design is table stakes.

And knowing how to design applications yourself or work with designers is a key skill.

This episode, you'll meet James Stone, who straddles that gap between developers and designers.

He's both.

He has a bunch of tips for improving your design skills, as well as working with designers.

This is Talk Python to Me, episode 137 recorded October 30th, 2017.

Music Welcome to Talk Python to Me, a weekly podcast on Python, the language, the libraries, the ecosystem, and the personalities.

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Hey, James.

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