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Struggle Care

137: BEST OF: The Sex Ed You Should Have Gotten with Rachel Coler Mulholland

Struggle Care

KC Davis

Self-improvement, Education

4.8750 Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Today, we are covering an important topic today, but maybe not in the way you expect. I’m joined by Rachel Mulholland (aka Shug CM), a therapist whom I met on TikTok because of her incredible content around sex education for children. Today’s focus is on how our lives as adults are impacted if we don’t get comprehensive sex education as children. Join us for the conversation! Show Highlights: How KC’s story from her teenage years illustrates the gaps that most people have in their education about sex and the fact that sex ed is NOT a one-time conversation How “purity culture” is impacting teenagers in certain places in the US in damaging ways How even most comprehensive sex ed doesn’t address the pleasurable side of sex–and (for females) that the pleasure doesn’t have to come from another person How sexual predators take advantage of the lack of information in sex ed from SAFE places Why parents have real fear about talking to their kids about sex ed The effects of NOT educating kids that sex and pleasure don’t always go together Rachel’s Four Pillars of Safe Sex: confirmation, communication, lubrication, and enthusiastic participation Why parents should be aware when their kids are ready to hear and learn–and begin at the most basic level appropriate for their age How to answer those first little-kid questions around, “Where do babies come from?” Why curiosity is a foundational part of body talk for kids–not just around sexuality How parents can work through their own feelings around sex ed with their children Why Rachel’s next project is a book about body talk Resources: Connect with Rachel: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and Website (coming soon!) Recommended by Rachel: How Do You Make A Baby by Anna Fiske Connect with KC: TikTok, Instagram, and Website  Get KC’s book, How to Keep House While Drowning Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, you sent you ball of Stardust.

0:07.5

Welcome to Struggle Care, the podcast about mental health by me, Casey Davis.

0:11.8

Eventually, I'll have a tagline that sticks.

0:14.8

Also, by the way, I, somebody told me way early on that I don't pronounce sentient correctly. And I looked it up and they were correct.

0:22.6

So apparently the American pronunciation is sentient. I guess the British still say sentient.

0:27.8

But I just want, dear listener, you to know that I am totally 100% aware that I don't pronounce

0:32.6

it at the correct U.S. pronunciation. And I will not be. I think it sounds weird and I will not.

0:38.0

I want to stick with sentient. My guest today is Rachel, who is a therapist. I met her on TikTok because she makes

0:44.3

really incredible content about sex education for children. And before you swipe away, if you're

0:49.9

not a parent, we're only going to talk about parenting stuff at the very end because I want to talk more about what the effect is as adults when we don't get comprehensive sex education. So Rachel, say hello. Introduce yourself.

1:05.1

Hi, everybody. I'm Rachel. You might also know me as Shug from TikTok. So Rachel, I want to start by telling you a story. All right, let's hear it.

1:12.6

So by the way, mom and dad, you may not want to hear this story. But whatever. My, I don't remember

1:18.3

sex education in school at all. I have no recollection of it. I do remember my mother, which I thought

1:24.6

she did a good job. She sat down when I was in early grade school and

1:28.2

explained to me how babies were made. And she drew the ovaries and the uterus and, you know,

1:34.9

the vaginal canal. And she talked about the sperm going up through the vaginal canal and meeting

1:40.8

the egg and it coming down. She drew it out the whole picture. And that's what I remember. And at the time, and for a long time, I thought, like, wow, like my mom really, like did so much more than school did. And then fast forward, I was 16 years old and I lost my virginity in the back seat of a minivan at like 3 a.m. It was very romantic. And the next day, so I'm talking like 29 hours later,

2:05.8

I was with my friend who incidentally was that person's younger sister, and I went to the bathroom.

2:12.0

And I sat down on the toilet and this gush of blood came out. And it was not period blood, right? Like it was watery. It was a gush.

2:21.4

And I panicked. And I called a friend, obviously not the friend who's house I was at because I just slept with a brother.

2:28.4

And I said to her, this is embarrassing to this day. I said, I had sex and I think I got pregnant and just had a miscarriage.

2:35.7

Because at 16 years old, that was, I didn't know anything else except for those mechanics of like the sperm meets the egg.

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