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Listening to America

#1369 Four Scholars

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Listening to America

Society & Culture, History

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2019

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

"I take absolutely no joy in any of this. This is a national catastrophe, a tragedy." — Clay S. Jenkinson

On December 4, 2019, four constitutional scholars gathered to testify before the U.S. House Judiciary Committee in public hearings. This week in an out of character program we listen to selected portions of that testimony. Clay Jenkinson responds and provides his unique insight. He notes how often the founders are referred to during the hearings and says that the scholars "gave us an unbelievably important civics lesson on the intention of the founding fathers."

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0:00.0

Good Day Thomas Jefferson Hour Podcast listeners and welcome to this week's

0:05.8

broadcast. Hello everyone this is an important one. David called me

0:11.6

while the hearings were on and the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives

0:17.0

and said...

0:18.0

On December 4th, because there's been more since.

0:20.0

There's been several and said, you know, we should record record I'm recording these we should

0:24.1

excerpt these and make comments on them for the show and it was a great idea

0:28.4

David no small task when they went on for how many hours I know you went to some trouble to do all of that.

0:34.0

You know, but not really troubled because, I didn't know you, both of us are just fascinated to watch

0:39.4

this unfold. It's so important, and it also involves these gentlemen that we talk about every week.

0:47.0

So Jonathan Turley is George Washington University School of Law, and I should say as a historical note he's the

0:54.4

cautious one who says let's slow down let's wait that we're rushing here and I

0:59.9

should say that back when Bill Clinton was up to no good he was 100% for impeachment

1:08.0

and removal and so he has reversed his positions and it it it it leads him open to the charge of partisanship

1:15.8

that he was so eager to get rid of Bill Clinton for lying to a grand jury

1:20.3

about his sexual life and now he is so reluctant to condemn President Trump

1:27.1

for his public actions with respect to Ukraine. I found that a little bit

1:32.3

disquieting but I was taken with his arguments.

1:35.0

If you watched him on television, I don't know that you had a chance to, but if you watched him,

1:40.0

his body language towards the end was pretty obvious sitting stiff arms folded locked in

1:50.0

to be fair he was outnumbered

1:51.8

You know Alan Dershowitz, who is a very distinguished Harvard alum,

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