Welcome to the podcast,

Sadguru of Mystics and Mistakes.

Sadguru, how is a consecrated space different than an unonsecreated one? There are spaces which were created by people who never uttered a word.

You know, there are any number of spaces like this.

This happened very dramatically for us when, are

Tamil people? Karur, you know Karur? Near Karur, there's a place called Velaydu Palin.

There's a small hillock. Almost 20 years ago I was teaching a program there. Then somebody told

me there are caves there where some 1,900 years ago some Jane Monks came and stayed

there. Then I said, okay, let's go and see.

So this is a small cave where about 8, 10 people could lie down.

Just about 5, 5 and a half feet in height you have to go in.

It's like a bird's nest.

You have to find your way. So we went there and it's in a, it's like a bird's nest, you have to find your way.

So we went there and it was not kept in any cleanliness or properly.

Obviously people were using it for various purposes.

There were a lot of empty bottles, cigarette packets and playing cards and always, you know, somebody writes,

PKT loves SKP and you never know who these people are, but you see, inscriptions everywhere.

So I went and sat there about four other people that were there with me, four or five people.

You sit there and suddenly your whole system is on in a different way.

I said, wow, this is something, you know, this is a place where somebody stayed over 2,000 years ago,

and it's still alive like it's day before yesterday.

And, you know, I could clearly see that person who was lying there more than 2,000 years ago.

...