1360: Carnivore Vs. Vegan With Dr. Will Bulsiewicz & Dr. Paul Saladino
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
Sal Di Stefano, Adam Schafer, Justin Andrews, Doug Egge
4.8 • 11.8K Ratings
🗓️ 17 August 2020
⏱️ 102 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Sal speaks with plant based advocate Dr. Will Bulsiewicz and carnivore advocate Dr. Paul Saladino.
- An interview with Dr. Will Bulsiewicz.
- Is Will pro-plant based or pro-vegan? What are the differences? (4:42)
- How the food he was eating was holding him back. (6:37)
- How a plant-based diet allows you to activate satiety hormones to get into a calorie deficit. (11:16)
- Making the case for protein, the most satisfying macronutrient. (13:10)
- The educational problems surrounding planet-based diets. (16:22)
- Having the evolutionary conversation around eating meat. (18:05)
- Is longevity engineered? (22:57)
- Has he run into any clients who don’t do well on a plant-based diet? (27:07)
- His take on creatine. (29:31)
- Does meat by itself post any health risks? (33:15)
- Looking at the layers of evidence. What’s the deal with this TMAO? (35:35)
- Is it possible to build muscle on a plant-based diet? (37:45)
- His take on veganism being linked to higher rates of mental illness. (41:16)
- An interview with Dr. Paul Saladino. (43:35)
- What is the carnivore diet? (44:14)
- Why does he believe that plants are bad for us? (47:22)
- Doesn’t processing vegetables get around their toxins? (52:22)
- Explaining the plant toxicity spectrum. (56:17)
- What’s up with fiber?! (1:01:21)
- The effects of no vitamin c in our diet. (1:06:55)
- The mainstream dogma surrounding saturated fat. (1:09:55)
- Debunking the blue zones. (1:19:37)
- The role of carbohydrates when it comes to athletic performance. (1:23:14)
- Mind Pump Recap and Key Takeaways: Carnivore vs. Vegan. (1:27:28)
Featured Guest(s)/People Mentioned
- Will Bulsiewicz MD MSCI (Dr B) (@theguthealthmd) Instagram
- Dr. Will Bulsiewicz | The Gut Health MD
- Paul Saladino, MD (@carnivoremd) Instagram
- Carnivore MD
- IFBB Pro Jehina🌱 (@ifbbjehinamalik1) Instagram
Related Links/Products Mentioned
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- Fiber Fueled: The Plant-Based Gut Health Program for Losing Weight, Restoring Your Health, and Optimizing Your Microbiome – Book by Will Bulsiewicz MD
- The Carnivore Code | Carnivore MD
- Effects of 4 weight-loss diets differing in fat, protein, and carbohydrate on fat mass, lean mass, visceral adipose tissue, and hepatic fat: results from the POUNDS LOST trial
- A plant-based, low-fat diet decreases ad libitum energy intake compared to an animal-based, ketogenic diet: An inpatient randomized controlled trial
- Antagonistic Pleiotropy - an overview
- Effects of Creatine Supplementation on Muscle Performance during the Transition from an Omnivorous Diet to a Lacto-Ovo Vegetarian Diet
- Brain creatine depletion in vegetarians? A cross-sectional 1H-magnetic resonance spectroscopy (1H-MRS) study
- TMAO Testing: A New Way To Assess Heart Attack And Stroke Risk
- Vegetarianism and veganism compared with mental health and cognitive outcomes: a systematic review and meta-analysis
- Are Plant Lectins A Problem For Humans?
- Role of dietary fiber in colon cancer: an overview
- Effect of dietary fiber on constipation: A meta analysis
- Stopping or reducing dietary fiber intake reduces constipation and its associated symptoms
- Smith-Lemli-Opitz syndrome
- The ‘carnivore connection’—evolutionary aspects of insulin resistance
- Dr. Saul Newman: debunking the 'Blue Zone' longevity myth
- Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. |
| 0:06.0 | Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. |
| 0:09.1 | Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. |
| 0:13.4 | In this episode of Mind Pump the World's Top Fitness Health and Entertainment Podcast, |
| 0:19.0 | we wanted to cover a topic that is quite popular right now in the fitness and health space. |
| 0:25.5 | This is a dietary topic. |
| 0:27.9 | Now, we've heard about all the potential benefits of the vegan diet or the plant-based diet. |
| 0:34.3 | But more recently, we've been hearing a lot about the carnivore diet. |
| 0:37.4 | In fact, there's been quite a few people that have messaged us and said that eating in a |
| 0:42.3 | carnivore style has solved a lot of their health problems. |
| 0:46.5 | So we wanted to do an episode where we got who we consider to be two of the best experts |
| 0:51.6 | on both sides of those arguments to discuss the benefits of why they're on the carnivore |
| 0:57.3 | side or why they're on the vegan side. |
| 0:59.8 | We picked two amazing people who are not zealots, who are very intelligent, and who present |
| 1:06.1 | a very, very good case. |
| 1:07.3 | So we open up the episode by talking to Dr. Will Bulsiewicz. |
| 1:11.6 | Now, he's a gastroenterologist. |
| 1:14.5 | He's pro plant-based, very, very smart guy. |
| 1:17.2 | Really like the guy. |
| 1:19.1 | He wrote a book called Fiber Fueled, and you can find him online at theplantfedgut.com. |
| 1:26.3 | So that's the first guy that I talked to in interview. |
| 1:29.7 | The second guy I talked to is Dr. Paul Saladino. |
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