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The Talk Show With John Gruber

136: ‘Fully Charged Pencil’ With Jason Snell

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2015

⏱️ 134 minutes

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Summary

Special guest Jason Snell joins the show to talk about iPad Pro, Apple Pencil, how iOS still feels like *iPhone OS* at a fundamental level, and Don Norman and Bruce Tognazzini’s overwrought “How Apple Is Giving Design a Bad Name” article for Fast Company. Also: the new membership program at Six Colors.

Transcript

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0:00.0

As we record, we are recording on Thursday, November 19th.

0:03.0

I have seen reports now on Twitter that people are saying that the Apple pencils are actually

0:08.6

starting to appear in retail stores.

0:11.1

I saw somebody was in San Francisco and there's a whole bunch of them available.

0:14.8

Yeah.

0:15.8

Yesterday, the Wednesday, the 18th, there were a lot of reports that it looked to me like

0:21.6

that they were making an effort to get them out.

0:25.0

There were a whole bunch of reports of like, I saw five of them here and there were 20 of them there.

0:29.6

And I thought that was a good sign and there's more of that today.

0:32.7

So it looks like whatever was going on, whatever a logistical bottleneck was there, maybe has

0:40.2

a, if not, if it hasn't solved itself at least as widened the bottleneck a little bit.

0:45.9

I'm curious to see what happens to people who like were promised three or four week shipping

0:51.4

dates like a week or two ago, whether they start getting them way earlier than promised

0:56.2

or whether the shipping ones still take as long as they had thought.

0:59.6

Yeah, that's the, I wonder sometimes if Apple has really thought through the whole dichotomy

1:05.6

of shipping versus Apple Store, you know, retail store pickup because with the Apple TV,

1:11.7

I wonder how many returns they're going to get where people bottom the moment that it

1:14.9

was for sale had them shipped on the cheaper shipping so they'd get them the next week

1:20.8

and then found that they were all in the Apple stores on the day.

1:23.8

That's what happened to me.

1:25.0

I got my box and just put the label back on it and sent it back out because three days

1:29.4

earlier, I just walked into my local Apple store and picked one up.

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