She was beat up badly in the me last year. This is the same guy.

The sad thing in these kind of cases is if this was the only case that you had him on, he might have gotten away with that kind of defense.

Well, even in the FBI, we called that a clue.

Hello and welcome to the best case worst case. This is Jim Clemente, Retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer producer of CBS's Criminal Mides.

And with me today, electronically is...

Hi, everybody. It's Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor. And Jim, I have to say right up front, we're all in separate places.

So please forgive us if there are any little hiccups with the sound everybody.

Yes, and we did try to do it in the same place, but there were some major electronic difficulties. So we ended up doing this electronically.

And we're really excited because we have one of our very favorite return guests.

Hi, Kevin McNeil, former detective, post department and author and victim advocate.

Well, Kevin, it's so great to have you back again on Best Case Worst Case. The stories that you've told us in the past have been very compelling.

And I don't know, Francie says some of the women who are in our audience kind of like you.

Well, I like them too. I'm so glad to hear that. Thank you, Francie.

Oh, Kevin, you're going to have so many fans, more fans every time you talk.

That sounds great. I look forward to it.

So Kevin, the case that you want to talk to us about today, what part of your career were you in at that time?

I was probably halfway through my career as a detective. I was probably six years in as a detective as a specialist detective.

And this is after you were police officer for how long?

I was a police officer for eight years. And so I became a specialist victim detective at the eight years on the road.

And at this particular point, in this particular case, I had been a detective for six years. I was still learning, but I kind of had gotten my feet wet a little bit.

One of those cases is still 14 years in law enforcement. I guess that counts as feet wet. Don't you, Francie?

I don't know about, I mean, you can always still learn Kevin, but I think at six years as a detective after a road time, I'd call you seasoned.

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