I'm Alice and I'm Brett and episode of the prosecutor's legal briefs. We have a special treat for you.

I was honored to join Julia Cowley on her show, The Consult, Real FBI Profilers. And we talked

about a subject that Alice and I has spent a lot of time discussing ethics in true crime.

It was a great discussion. You may have already heard it on her show, but she was kind enough to let me publish it here as well

for a wider audience. If you haven't checked out Julia's show, it is amazing. They do tremendous

deep dives on cases, and they do it from the perspective of FBI profilers.

It's unlike anything you've ever heard. It is just like being in the room with the BAU

as they are looking at behavior and analyzing it in cases. You're going to love it. They've

talked about Robert Juan, which is a case we covered. They recently did some

fantastic episodes on John Bonae Ramsey. I hope you'll check out their show, and I hope you

will enjoy this discussion. In the consult, we discuss cases involving violence, sexual

violence, abduction, and murder.

Sometimes the cases we discuss involve children.

Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to the consult. I'm Julia Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler. And today I'm joined by Brett Talley, who is a not retired federal prosecutor, right?

That's right.

You got a ways to go.

And you're also the co-host of the prosecutors and legal briefs podcasts.

And you discovered us, I feel.

You discovered our show. And probably most of our listeners already know your show. In fact, I only had one listener ever that said they discover the prosecutors through us. I think it was on some social media platforms that I actually discovered the prosecutors through you guys.

And I said, they're the only one.

Probably there'll be many more to come.

But I think, I think that, you know, I went on your show and I was not promoting my podcast because I had taken a hiatus and then you reached out.

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