God, bravo, that was so well structured.

Yeah, who the fuck knows?

And we're going to look back for sure one day on this, the same way we look back at those little

Hobbit people, they found that Florin's Island and that's one of the

weirdest things about it is we got to know that this is just a step along the way for the

species. Every species has moved in the same sort of direction from single-celled organism to us.

It's not stopping here.

This is just another step along the way.

But to what?

Do you wonder how much effect technology is going to have on this or how much impact?

Whether it's a symbiotic thing, whether it's a biological thing as well as a cosmological thing and

a technological thing, almost converging at the same time?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think that, you know, ultimately the next jump for our technology

would be to somehow become symbiotic with the planetary

environment. You know, we would create no waste systems.

Is that possible?

Is there a...

There's an interesting book

interesting book called Cradle to Cradall by this environmental designer William

McDonohue and a chemist and they believe that they started the process of

analyzing all these industrial systems and the idea is that you could redesign them.