#136 - Carl Benjamin - The System That Creates Nick Fuentes

The Peter McCormack Show

Peter McCormack

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🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 108 minutes

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Summary

Carl Benjamin is a political commentator and cultural critic. This discussion focuses on diagnosis — not slogans — and on understanding consequences before they arrive.

Young men aren't radicalising because of ideology, they're reacting to a world that no longer works for them. In this conversation with Carl Benjamin, we break down why the post-war consensus has collapsed, why politics feels illegitimate and why a generation feels pushed to the edge.

In this episode we discuss:
– Why young men feel shut out of the system
– The collapse of the post-WWII consensus
– Piers Morgan, Nick Fuentes, and generational revolt
– Identity politics vs material reality
– Legitimacy, consent, and non-compliance
– Why politics no longer fixes anything
– What happens when power has no limits
– Why discomfort is unavoidable

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TIMESTAMPS:
00:04:18 – Why Young Men Feel Politically Homeless
00:11:42 – Moral Outrage vs Material Reality
00:19:27 – Why Figures Like Nick Fuentes Resonate
00:27:53 – Identity Politics and Manufactured Resentment
00:36:41 – Media Incentives and the Outrage Economy
00:48:12 – Piers Morgan, Debate Culture, and Spectacle
01:01:08 – Loss of Legitimacy in Institutions
01:15:18 – What Happens if Nothing Changes
01:32:44 – Generational Breaking Point
01:35:21 – Final Warnings and Consequences

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Transcript

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0:00.0	It's what's coming down the line and the world we're leaving with them.
0:03.2	And so it would make sense to kind of get ahead of that now and understand. Because what we're doing is essentially stigmatizing our young men. Yeah. Oh, you like Nip Fuentes. All of our young men are now back. It's like, no. What they're doing is a rational response to the circumstances. We don't live in, but they do live in.
0:25.5	And it's because we've allowed this change to happen against our will and definitely against their will, that they are just responding to where they are. And so acting like they've done
0:31.2	something wrong, it's like, no, man, it would be suicide to not feel like you have to reorient your worldview.
0:39.5	And when the boomer, Pierce Morgan, is just like, I can't believe you like Al Hitler.
0:43.9	It's just like, yeah, okay, bro.
0:45.8	You know, that's a world that doesn't exist anymore.
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1:14.9	Right.
1:15.8	Afternoon, Carl.
1:16.9	Hello.
1:17.5	How you doing?
1:18.6	Really well.
1:20.0	This week's been a inflection point for me this last week.
1:25.0	Yeah.
1:25.4	I read your substand.
1:27.0	Yeah.
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