Welcome to shaken and disturbed, everyone.

This is Darren Karp, but I'm here with John Thrasher, and we are recording our full episode.

Welcome to official, official October.

I know that we released our episode last week and it was well into October,

but now we're finally recording in October. Here we are. A little different. Yeah. And, you know, we have a really, really cool. I want to say it's a Halloween project. Oh, my God. Is that the right thing to kind of say about it? Yeah, like it's a holiday. we don't want to give too much away, but, you know,

Darren and I are working on something extremely unique, original, and creative together for you

guys. It'll be for everybody. We're going to put it on Patreon first for an exclusive window.

More on more details about that later. But so if you want to be the first to know what we're coming

up with, do sign up for Patreon at patreon.com slash shaken and disturbed. Click the show notes if you'd like to click right into the link. But yeah, some really, really fun stuff coming up this month. And we're just in full swing. It's really fun to be making stuff for shaken and disturbed. Full swing. And let me just say that normally our NMRs every week are kind of a chance for John and I don't know to shoot the shit.

We talk about... making stuff for shaken and disturbed. Full swing. And let me just say that normally our NMRs every week are kind of a chance

for John and I don't shoot the shit. We talk about murder things. We don't talk about murder things.

They ask him for iPhone advice. I got the new iPhone. Everyone can relax.

Okay. Okay. Everyone can calm down. I'm already annoyed about all the charger changes,

even though I think it's best that we switch to USBC, but I digress.

I forgot to tell a kind of scary story at NMR. So I'm just going to, it's two seconds. Tell us now. Listen, it's all the show. We're all here. We're all here. But, okay, okay. I don't want to give too many details because I will say there's some sensitivity around it because I think there's mental illness going on and I'm trying not to like it mostly happened to me. But anyway, so last week, my brother comes to stay with me for two nights because we were going up to this music festival in San Francisco. Which if you didn't hear it on our Patreon NMR, Darren talked about it there. Yes, I talked about it there. So I, he's staying over.

He's doing work out of my apartment and I have to go drive across town to go to a meeting. So I was like, Evan, I'm going to leave now, blah, blah, blah, blah. One thing is you know about my brother, we're extremely close, but we never call each other on the phone unless we need something like immediate. Like birthdays, we text. we just don't talk

same.

My brother just like hates the phone.

He's so bad at it.

I don't mind it.

He's so bad.

He'll just be like,

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