Be the right club today.

Right club today. That's better than most.

How about in?

That is better than most.

Better than most. The most.

Expect anything different?

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast.

Welcoming in Columbus Business School Professor and and welcome in

in Columbus Business School professor and the author of

every shot counts Mr Mark Brody. Mark I was going through our direct messages

I had first contacted you to come on the podcast about four years ago and somehow criminally

never followed up on that but welcome and we're finally making this happen.

Oh, well, thanks for having me, Chris.

It's a pleasure after all these years. No looking forward to one I think I've learned a lot and for the record I want to before I say it this is not a book promotion you did not ask to come on to promote your book, but I read your book every shot

count several years ago and it changed the way that I thought about golf and followed your

work a lot very closely after that, so I've always looked forward to talking stats with you and I think

listeners to this will understand maybe you know some I would say don't know at all what strokes

gained is but I think some understand it roughly and even talking to some of the other

no laying up guys before we started recording they're like yeah I want to learn about this I

need to know about this so I think people are going to learn quite a bit but I'm

sure you've told the story many times but first I want to get kind of an understanding of what your background was and how you ended up

Kind of revolutionizing the way golf is analyzed from a statistical standpoint

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