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Hello, you sentient balls of Stardust. Welcome to Struggle Care. I'm your host, Casey Davis,

and I have one of my favorite guests back in the studio, virtually, of course, Dr. Leslie,

thank you for being here. It is always a pleasure. I'm excited every time I'm here. I've recently

started doing this thing where I actually meet with people before a podcast recording for 15 minutes and come up with like an outline of things we can talk about. And I'm like, this is so great. And not only did I not do that with you. I haven't even told you what the topic is today. I said, do you want to do another podcast? And you were like, yeah. This is my wheelhouse. I love that. I love that. I just, what I learned was

not everybody likes that or can do that. And so I went through a couple of interviews where I was like,

oh, I need to start planning things so that I can help like guide the Leslie. I want to talk about

rejection sensitivity for you. Yeah. Don't we all. And here's my like, whatever that word is that you say,

but the disclaimer. I 100% am like totally down for any term that someone identifies with,

that describes their experience, that makes sense of their experience for them, and helps

them navigate in a world where they can

ask for what they need and create accommodations in their life and learn and grow and have

self-compassion for themselves. And like, I'm so down for that. Like, I'm never one of those people

that, like, wants to take terms away from people or like that's not

the right to it like who cares you like it you got it it's fine I'm disclaimering that only because I have

so many questions about this term and sometimes in order for me to understand something I go to this

like devil's advocate place of like, these are like the objections that

come up in me. And I'm not voicing them because I think they're necessarily right, but because I

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