Yeah, we could get right into it. So how long and when did you, you've had the, you had the dev kit for Apple TV?

Yes.

And what's the story? I mean, I guess it doesn't matter. I'm curious. I did not get the dev kit.

I guess I should have signed up for it. I just assumed that I would get a review unit.

But they didn't, I didn't get one till yesterday. So we were recording here on Friday, October 30.

I got mine from Apple yesterday on the 29th.

And I don't think I touched one. Yeah, no, I haven't since the event last month.

Yeah, you got coming host bids on it because a lot of press outlets just signed up and got one.

Yeah. Well, is that what happened? But I think a lot of them did get review units too.

And I just, you know, it seems haphazard. It doesn't seem like there was any rhyme or reason to it.

Like who got one and who didn't? Like tech crunch didn't get it until yesterday either.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I don't think I don't know if René got one.

No, he didn't.

So anything did. Oh, really?

Well, she had access to one. I know that.

Ah, yeah, it's such a weird thing. Like it's meta. It's so inside baseball.

But I guess that's what the point of podcasts is.

Yeah.

Is that it was the least secretive device once it was unveiled.

You know, so there's it was unveiled on stage in September.

I think they did a pretty good job keeping it under wraps.

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