You're listening to the Joe Gardner Show, the podcast all about gardening, where we cover

everything you need to know to grow like a pro, no experience required.

And now here's your guide, National Gardening Television Host, and the Joe Behind Joe Gardner,

Joe Lample.

Hi everybody, this is Joe Lample, the Joe Behind Joe Gardner, and welcome to the Joe Gardner

Show.

Do you have an appreciation for birds?

I sure do, and I know for many gardeners, we share that same connection.

In fact, that association is common enough to have a long-standing magazine called Birds

and Blooms, and probably many of you either subscribe to it or you've seen it a number

of times.

I would consider myself an amateur birder at this point, but I hope my knowledge continues

to grow every day about birds, just as it is with gardening.

In fact, I love on our Facebook group page, the Joe Gardner Facebook group page, many of

our gardening members are posting all the time pictures of the birds at their feeders or

resting on a limb or plant in their yard.

And then without fail, a healthy discussion of comments goes on about it because so many

other gardeners are just as excited, and I never get tired of that, and I'm probably

one of those people chiming in from time to time.

So if you haven't figured it out by now, today's podcast discussion will be focused around

birds.

And specifically, my conversation with Dr. John Marslef, University of Washington Professor

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