What's up, everybody?

This is Cortland from AndyHackers.com, and you're listening to the Andy Hackers podcast.

On this show, I talked to the founders of profitable internet businesses, and I'm trying to get a sense of what it's like to be in their shoes.

How do they get to where they are today?

How do they make decisions, both of their companies and in their personal lives, and what exactly makes their businesses tick? And the goal here, as always, is so that the rest of us can learn from their examples and go on to build our own profitable internet businesses. Today, I'm talking to Anne Laar of Nest Labs. Anne Laar, welcome to the show. Thanks for having you. You are the founder of Ness Labs, where you work on several different products.

Why don't you tell us a little bit about each one?

Currently, focusing on three main products.

So there's Make of Mind, which is my newsletter, which I started this summer,

which has currently about 5,000 subscribers where I write at the intersection

of neuroscience and entrepreneurship, because I'm also studying neuroscience part-time on the side.

And second product is teeny breaks, which is a Chrome extension that reminds people to take breaks and gives them suggestions of mindful things to do during these breaks,

which are all backed by science with links to the corresponding research papers.

And the last one is MakerMag, which is publication for indie hackers and indie makers.

The ambition is basically to be something of it like tech crunch,

but where we celebrate makers making actual money rather than raising big rounds.

Cool.

So I notice every one of these is either maker related or mindfulness related.

How do the two of those intersect for you?

Yeah, so definitely.

I've always been interested by how the brain works.

I decided to go back and study neuroscience last year.

So I'm in the second year of my master's.

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