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Mormon Stories Podcast

1326: The Excommunication of Sam Pinson and his Family in Ammon, Idaho Pt. 6

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.55.7K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2020

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Summary

Every once in a while we have an epic, multi-part Mormon Stories Podcast episode about a family who experiences a faith crisis together -- wherein multiple family members (including some of the children) participate in the re-telling of the story.

This is one of those episodes.

Sam and Sara Pinson were living the Mormon dream: raised in the LDS Church, married in the LDS temple, etc.  Sam obtained his “dream job” working 5 years for Microsoft, and later left Microsoft to start his own business.  The Pinson dream culminated in Sam and Sara moving to Ammon (Idaho Falls), Idaho, wherein Sam was called as a Mormon bishop.  Everything seemed perfect - except it wasn’t.

  • Their teenage daughter, Olivia, was questioning both the church, and her sexuality.
  • Their son, Sam Jr., was suffering with Scrupulosity (religious OCD)
  • And both Sam and Sara were beginning to question their Mormon faith while Sam was serving as bishop.

Today’s episode tells the story of how a devout Mormon family in Ammon, Idaho, led by a Mormon Bishop, can end up losing their faith in Mormonism in 2020.  It also includes a full recounting of how Sam began to speak openly about his struggles with the church after losing his faith - leading to threats and ultimately a disciplinary council/excommunication.  And yes, Sam recorded and is now sharing here the full audio of his excommunication (Part 6).

Sam’s wife Sara, along with two of their brilliant children - Olivia and Sam Jr. - also participate in this super-thoughtful story/discussion.

You will not be disappointed in this episode.  HUGE thanks to Sam Sr., Sara, Olivia, and Sam Jr. for their willingness to join us on Mormon Stories Podcast and tell their epic story.

Transcript

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0:00.0

What do you mean?

0:04.0

I want to get on the COVID.

0:07.0

Are you married?

0:10.0

How do you?

0:11.0

Hi.

0:12.0

So, y'all, good looking as always.

0:16.0

It's a change.

0:18.0

Beautiful.

0:19.0

So, do you want fish of bin with you?

0:21.0

Not opposed.

0:23.0

Have you?

0:24.0

I don't think you came here to not.

0:28.0

Did you come here to live participating?

0:31.0

You know, it's still your choice.

0:33.0

Your choice.

0:34.0

And then, we'll go have a guy come for me.

0:39.0

Yeah, great.

0:41.0

Hello, sir.

0:42.0

I think I know you.

0:43.0

See, you can see you.

0:45.0

Am I here?

0:46.0

Yeah, you're right there.

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