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#1325 Pax Americana

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Society & Culture, History

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2019

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

We answer listener questions this week, and we identify a specific melon seed that Pat Brodowski, the head gardener at Monticello, mentioned on a past episode. We also discuss Clay's new ukulele. The most mail we received was about Robert Kagan's new book, The Jungle Grows Back, which Tom Friedman of The New York Times called "An incisive, elegantly written, new book about America's unique role in the world."

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0:00.0

Good Day Citizens and welcome to this week's podcast edition of the Thomas Jefferson Hour.

0:06.6

You are all welcome.

0:07.9

I'm glad you are with us.

0:09.7

This week we talk about listener mail.

0:12.4

We get a lot of it and it's fascinating and David

0:16.8

some of it is just fun. It is. Some of it is just fun about different types of plants and melons that Jefferson grew and my new

0:26.5

ukulele and...

0:28.2

We got a question we had to answer from Susanna Ordry about a specific type of melon that Pat

0:34.6

Bradowski and it's you know what in these cold weather days I like to think I had a

0:38.4

oh garden around the corner so we had to answer that and we got a lot of mail and I hope we get more about Robert Kagan's extraordinarily important short book,

0:50.0

The Jungle Grows Back, about the post-World War II settlement, what he calls the liberal world

0:56.7

order not to be confused with liberals like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders, liberals used in another sense here.

1:05.8

And what happens if the United States, which is the world's unipower and hegemony, if we begin

1:10.8

to pull back from our presence in those troubled places in Asia and mostly in Europe.

1:17.5

And so I think that book is must reading for every American.

1:20.5

It helps to explain the Trump phenomenon, among other things, but that's not its main purpose, and I hope people will read it and respond.

1:27.0

We even got a text as I walked into the barn from none other than Brad Krizler of Nashville objecting to one sentence in the book and then we tried.

1:37.0

It wasn't really objecting.

1:38.0

It was just a little because what what basically what Robert Kagan says is that order is

1:45.9

important and you at times you may have to let order be brought by

1:51.5

authoritarian governments because disorder is so much more violent and convulsive.

1:57.5

And so that of course is always something that's hard to swallow.

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