1324: The Excommunication of Sam Pinson and his Family in Ammon, Idaho Pt. 4
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 9 June 2020
⏱️ 97 minutes
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Summary
Every once in a while we have an epic, multi-part Mormon Stories Podcast episode about a family who experiences a faith crisis together -- wherein multiple family members (including some of the children) participate in the re-telling of the story.
This is one of those episodes.
Sam and Sara Pinson were living the Mormon dream: raised in the LDS Church, married in the LDS temple, etc. Sam obtained his “dream job” working 5 years for Microsoft, and later left Microsoft to start his own business. The Pinson dream culminated in Sam and Sara moving to Ammon (Idaho Falls), Idaho, wherein Sam was called as a Mormon bishop. Everything seemed perfect - except it wasn’t.
- Their teenage daughter, Olivia, was questioning both the church, and her sexuality.
- Their son, Sam Jr., was suffering with Scrupulosity (religious OCD)
- And both Sam and Sara were beginning to question their Mormon faith while Sam was serving as bishop.
Today’s episode tells the story of how a devout Mormon family in Ammon, Idaho, led by a Mormon Bishop, can end up losing their faith in Mormonism in 2020. It also includes a full recounting of how Sam began to speak openly about his struggles with the church after losing his faith - leading to threats and ultimately a disciplinary council/excommunication. And yes, Sam recorded and is now sharing here the full audio of his excommunication (Part 6).
Sam’s wife Sara, along with two of their brilliant children - Olivia and Sam Jr. - also participate in this super-thoughtful story/discussion.
You will not be disappointed in this episode. HUGE thanks to Sam Sr., Sara, Olivia, and Sam Jr. for their willingness to join us on Mormon Stories Podcast and tell their epic story.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | One, two, three. |
| 0:03.0 | Come, come, you saints, no toil nor labor fear. |
| 0:28.0 | But with joy, when you're way. |
| 0:35.0 | So at some point, we have friends who continue to be in the church. |
| 0:43.0 | We're not in the church, we're not attending anymore. |
| 0:46.0 | And we can have this elephant in the relationship unspoken of, or we can talk about it. |
| 0:52.0 | And I didn't want to have elephants. |
| 0:55.0 | So we went out to lunch or dinner we met with several couples separately who are our friends. |
| 1:04.0 | And I wanted to explain, hey, this is where I am, this is what happened. |
| 1:12.0 | My intent was not to change their mind. |
| 1:15.0 | And it was just to explain myself briefly. |
| 1:19.0 | If they want to have a conversation about anything, I welcome it. |
| 1:23.0 | And then at least they'll understand what's up with Sam now. |
| 1:29.0 | And we had varying. |
| 1:32.0 | What's up with Bishop? |
| 1:33.0 | Yeah. |
| 1:34.0 | Yeah, we had varying responses from people. |
| 1:37.0 | Some people not interested in hearing anything about it. |
| 1:44.0 | Yeah. |
| 1:45.0 | Some people very willing to listen in here. |
| 1:51.0 | And one thing that I observed in these discussions with friends, and just at this point, |
| 1:59.0 | when I'm bringing up issues that I had never learned about, and I recognize that there are members of the church who do learn about these things, |
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