Welcome to the History of the Americans podcast episode 132.

This is an interview and was recorded on November 2nd, 2023.

I was in New Orleans, probably still him,

and my guest, Selena Baker, was in a secure,

undisclosed location in Austin, Texas.

If you are new to the podcast, we are telling the history of the lands now encompassed by

the United States from the beginning without presentism, or at least as little as we can

get away with.

Also, if you are a new listener, sidebars our term for an episode off the timeline, which I do occasionally when I come across something

interesting or in recognition of a holiday, that sort of thing. This is something interesting.

Selina lives in Austin and has just published The Line of Splendor.

A biographical novel of the life of General Nathaniel Green,

regarded by most historians as George Washington's most important lieutenant.

We talk about Green's life, his famous Southern campaign in 1781, in which he and his men

drove the British out of the Carolinas in Georgia while losing most of the battles they

actually fought. Green's stint is Washington's quartermaster general and his talent for logistics,

his friendship with fellow boy wonder Henry Knox, and what might

have been had Green not died shortly after the end of the war.

Julia Child advised never to explain or apologize, but I don't have her confidence.

Regarding the sound, we recorded the interview over our phones and jets out of the

Naval Air Station Joint Reserve Base in Orleans kept buzzing downtown here, so the audio may sound

a bit different than usual. Hope it isn't annoying. So let's get on with it. I bring you,

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