Quick programming note this episode was recorded before the 2022 season so if you hear anything that sounds like it's off chronologically

That's the reason why otherwise hope you enjoy this one. thinking basketball podcast. Welcome back to an off-season episode. My name is Ben. As many of you know, you may have heard that.

We're clearly in off season form already with this introduction. Today, I guess that I've wanted to have on for a

while I feel like I've been following your work for as long as I can remember and

somehow we've never really linked up.

He is the host of a popular basketball

podcast himself, which it's, I mean, how about this title?

I was thinking about this, the title of your show just the basketball

podcast that's it it's pretty easy to remember from basketball immersion basketball

podcast coach Chris Oliver,

welcome to the show.

Great to be here, Ben.

Fun to talk to a true professional too.

With that introduction, yes, absolutely.

No, it's great.

Can I just say, like my wife was the one,

Jen Oliver, who just said, like we looked it up

and nobody named their podcast, the basketball podcast.

So I said no at first, because it's just to what you're thinking.

It's like, well, that's a little arrogant.

Like, it's the basketball podcast.

It's definitive.

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