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The Peter McCormack Show

#132 - James Esses - Is Gender Ideology Harming Children?

The Peter McCormack Show

Peter McCormack

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4.82.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

James Esses is a psychotherapist and former Childline volunteer who was expelled from his degree and blacklisted by his profession for opposing gender ideology. 

He now works with young people suffering from gender dysphoria and is one of the UK's most articulate defenders of reality, safeguarding and children's rights.

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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 – Introduction 
00:03:45 – The Trans Industry 
00:08:00 – Medicalisation vs Exploration  
00:12:30 – What Puberty Blockers Really Do  
00:16:00 – The Clinics & the Profits  
00:20:30 – Transitioning Is Not Treatment  
00:25:00 – Adults vs Children  
00:30:00 – From Self-Hate to Sterilisation  
00:34:30 – Schools, Indoctrination & DEI  
00:39:00 – Media Collusion  
00:44:15 – Language Wars: Women, Men & Meaning  
00:48:00 – Identity as Trend  
00:52:00 – Asexuality & Porn Addiction   
01:00:30 – The Role of the Therapist  
01:04:00 – Transition as Self-Harm  
01:09:00 – What Should Be Banned 
01:14:30 – De-Transitioning & Regret  
01:19:00 – Stereotypes, Confusion & Pressure  
01:23:00 – Media Gaslighting & The BBC  
01:27:00 – Dangers of the Conversion Therapy Ban  
01:31:00 – Why This Isn't Over  

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0:00.0

And I think part of the problem is that it's been now characterized as an identity as a choice.

0:06.0

You know, children have been taught in schools that we've all got this innate gender identity within us

0:11.0

and you can pick whatever you like and it can change from even hour to hour or minute to minute.

0:16.0

Whereas I'm saying, and actually it is classified as a mental health condition.

0:21.9

And we don't treat mental health conditions by affirming the delusion that the person believes

0:28.1

in.

0:29.1

We engage in exploration and trying to bring a person back to a state of reality. Because you can't choose your sex. Sex is binary and immutable. That's just the end of it. Some people say, well, it's not very kind to say that, but actually, as a psychotherapist, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind and affirming people's delusions is not kind at all.

0:59.0

Good afternoon, James.

1:02.0

Good to meet you, man.

1:04.0

I don't think we've made a show in detail covering the trans topic. We've covered it in various shows. We've

1:14.9

talked about it with various people, but never kind of in detail.

1:19.3

That's your lucky day.

1:20.4

Well, look, I've got loads of questions. Quite an empathetic individual on certain topics,

1:26.5

and it's just not something I I know enough about

1:29.8

and you know a lot more than me. So I've got a lot of questions. Um, where are we right now and

1:39.7

with this topic? Because it feels like nature is healing in certain areas with what's happened with the

1:45.6

International Olympic Committee and certain things but I suspect this is a

1:50.5

a topic where there are sinister things that happen in the background that we're not really aware of

1:58.6

well quite right I mean people thought that when the Supreme Court, you know, the highest court in the

2:04.6

land ruled that sex means biological sex, that was it, right, that this stuff was going to

2:09.6

disappear and society would go back to a state of equilibrium and were many months on now from

2:14.6

that judgment and nothing could be further from the truth

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