#1315 James Madison (Part One)

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🗓️ 4 December 2018

⏱️ 53 minutes

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"Mr. Madison made me look like a slacker.""Mr. Madison made me look like a slacker." — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

President Thomas Jefferson speaks about his good friend and adviser James Madison. Together, Jefferson and Madison made it possible for the Virginians to rule this country for 24 years at the beginning of the 19th century. It's a great example of two very different men combining their talents to make a stronger yin and yang, or put another way, Mutt and Jeff: a tall, elegant Virginian and a much more contained, little, balding fellow who was a brilliant political strategist. James Madison is arguably the most underrated of the Founding Fathers, and is often accurately referred to as the father of the Constitution. His wife, the famous Dolly Madison called him the Great Little Madison.

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0:00.0	Good Day Citizens and welcome to this week's podcast edition of the Thomas Jefferson hour.
0:06.0	Oh, really it's almost like the James Madison hour this week.
0:10.0	This week, yes.
0:11.0	Wow, so you, this was was your idea we had a letter that
0:14.0	suggested it i thought about it but then we got this uh this great
0:17.3	letter from uh... carl shetler and you were you prepared for this by reading a book called The Three Lives of James Madison.
0:25.1	The Three Lives of James Madison genius, partisan, president by Noah Feldman.
0:30.1	Then I also, there's one by Andrew Burstein and Nancy Eisenberg
0:35.8	Madison and Jefferson and that's a pretty good book but it's fairly hard on
0:40.8	our man Jefferson they they pull no punches. I know Andrew Bristing. We were two of the
0:46.2	talking heads in Ken Burns Thomas Jefferson from 1998. He's a good guy. And his first book was
0:51.8	the inner Jefferson, which was about the...
0:53.7	Oh, I didn't know that.
0:54.7	Yeah, it's a great book actually.
0:56.7	The book I read, there's a huge and growing literature on Madison.
1:00.6	He's always been called the most underrated of the founding father.
1:03.4	Suddenly there's this Madison Sheik.
1:06.2	And a lot of people are writing about him.
1:07.6	I read David O Stewart's Madison's gift, which is outstanding.
1:10.8	Yes, I saw you brought that in with you. I'll have to take a look at that as well. In the spirit of
1:16.2	economy, let's keep this podcast intro short and get to the show. Before we do, I think you have
1:22.0	something you want to remind listeners of.
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