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Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy

#1313 Why Prison Abolition is not Nearly as Scary as it Sounds

Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy

Jay Tomlinson

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2019

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Air Date: 10/22/2019

Today we take a look at why the concept of prison abolition isn’t as scary as it sounds, the answer to the question of what would replace prisons and why you’re wrong for even asking that in the first place.

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SHOW NOTES

Ch. 1: Mariame Kaba and Prison Abolition Part 1 - Justice in America with Josie Duffy Rice and Clint Smith - Air Date 3-20-19

Mariame Kaba discusses prisons, justice and the systems in place that do more harm than good.

Ch. 2: Future of Abolition with Marc Lamont Hill, Michelle Alexander and Vonya Quarles Part 1 - Making Contact - Air Date 1-30-19

Marc, Michelle and Vonya discuss the mass incarceration state and what actions are needed to change our systems.

Ch. 3: Mariame Kaba and Prison Abolition Part 2 - Justice in America with Josie Duffy Rice and Clint Smith - Air Date 3-20-19

Mariame Kaba discusses prisons, justice and the systems in place that do more harm than good.

Ch. 4: Is Prison Abolition Possible with Osyris Antham, Mariame Kaba, Joshua Dubler and Victoria Law Part 1 - News Beat - Air Date 12-20-18

Prisons on America are massive, and mass incarceration is a system of control.

Ch. 5: Future of Abolition with Marc Lamont Hill, Michelle Alexander and Vonya Quarles Part 2 - Making Contact - Air Date 1-30-19

Marc, Michelle and Vonya discuss the mass incarceration state and what actions are needed to change our systems.

Ch. 6: Is Prison Abolition Possible with Osyris Antham, Mariame Kaba, Joshua Dubler and Victoria Law Part 2 - News Beat - Air Date 12-20-18

Prisons on America are massive, and mass incarceration is a system of control.

Ch. 7: Carceral Abolition or Reconfiguration with Colleen Hackett and Ben Turk - This Is Hell - Air Date 3-27-19

Elites like to think they are making progress with small steps towards justice, but we have been criminalized black lives for centuries under white supremacy, tweaking and reforming isn't going to accomplish anything.


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The Prison Abolition Syllabus "(modeled after #FergusonSyllabus, #Charlestonsyllabus, #WelfareReformSyllabus and Trump Syllabus 2.0) seeks to contextualize and highlight prison organizing and prison abolitionist efforts from the 13th Amendment’s re-articulation of slavery to current resistance to mass incarceration, solitary confinement, and prison labor exploitation."

Some Prison Abolition-Focused Orgs/Groups/Activists to Follow on Twitter:

Black and Pink National: @BLACKandPINKOrg

Critical Resistance: @C_Resistance

Harvard Prison Divestment Campaign: @HarvardPDC

Derecka Purnell: @dereckapurnell

Prof. Ibram X. Kendi: @DrIbram

Law for Black Lives: @Law4BlackLives

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0:00.0

Welcome to this episode of the award winning best of a left podcast in which we shall learn

0:07.4

about why the concept of prison abolition isn't nearly as scary as it sounds, the answer

0:13.7

to the question of what would replace prisons and why you're wrong to even be asking that

0:18.6

in the first place.

0:20.3

Stick around at the end of the show for some very big news about the show itself and an

0:25.9

explanation for why I urgently need your help, no kidding, please have a listen to that.

0:32.0

And now onto the show clips today come from Justice in America making contact, newsbeat,

0:38.3

and this is hell.

0:42.4

15 years ago, Angela Davis wrote a book called Our Prison's Obsolete.

0:50.0

And in it, she essentially outlines a case for prison abolition.

0:53.2

She says, look, even people who care about this issue, who want to see real change to

0:58.0

our system, have trouble imagining a world without prisons in it.

1:01.9

But why would we assume that prisons are inherently necessary?

1:05.4

So we know what you're thinking, whenever you kind of say the words prison abolition to

1:09.3

people, it can sound really extreme, right?

1:12.5

People tend to think that of course we must have prisons.

1:15.6

There are people out there who are dangerous and who have done some really, really bad things

1:19.1

and those people need to be locked up.

1:22.2

Perhaps you're even willing to concede that we could let 80 or 90 or 95% of people out

1:28.3

of prison right now and address wrong doings in either ways.

1:31.6

And it wouldn't have any repercussions for public safety.

1:34.9

But you also might believe that we still need to have that 5% of people locked away.

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