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Pick Me Up, I'm Scared.

131. The Case for Letting Malibu Burn

Pick Me Up, I'm Scared.

Madeline Pendleton and David Roberts

Society & Culture

4.8724 Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2025

⏱️ 135 minutes

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Summary

This week, Madeline & David talk about the Los Angeles fires, prison labor, and climate change!

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14269289/arsonist-arrested-starting-la-kenneth-fire.html

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Pick Me Up, I'm scared. The podcast.

0:28.4

I'm your host, Madeline. I'm your co-host, David.

0:35.0

And today, we are doing a very topical episode about something we are experiencing here in Los Angeles.

0:39.5

The Queen Mary. Not the Queen Mary. The Queen Mary was delightful. The reason why David saw the Queen Mary was that I was under an evacuation order for like one weird night

0:45.4

that turned out, like turned into nothing. And I felt very silly when I came home and all my

0:51.3

neighbors were like, yeah, man, we've been chilling.

0:55.5

I mean, I think, obviously we're talking about the Los Angeles fires.

0:59.7

Yeah.

1:00.1

I think that if there's a question about whether you should stay or go, you should probably just go.

1:05.7

And if you have the option in the stay or go conversation to go to the Queen Mary have a lovely cocktail

1:13.2

and I guess look at the Long Beach Pier.

1:16.7

Yeah.

1:17.7

Why not fucking take it?

1:19.0

Sounds lovely.

1:19.8

The only thing I will say is I have heard of some people who are in locations of Los Angeles,

1:25.8

definitely not threatened by fire, who were like,

1:29.6

the evacuation orders are definitely about me individually, definitely yes, and then they just

1:34.7

clogged the traffic of the people who actually needed to evacuate because they might add.

1:38.3

Oh, yeah.

1:39.3

And it's like, just read the room, maybe let those people get out first before you start hypothesizing about all the myriad

1:45.1

ways this could potentially affect you that it is currently not. Maybe let those people have

1:49.1

access to our famously crowded highways and freeway systems first to leave to get where

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