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#131 Phil Demers - The Ethics of Animal Captivity

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🗓️ 29 January 2021

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Philip Demers is a former professional marine mammal trainer at Marineland of Canada in Niagara Falls, Ontario. He is best known for his relationship with a captive walrus named Smooshi. We discuss his story, his evolving mission, and the ethical and moral complexity surrounding animal captivity and treatment. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

I am the man sick with the slang sick and I'm destined for fame

0:06.4

through for the fan not for the grand stunt near destined for pain

0:09.8

I do not front I do not scam put some respect on my name sick like a ring

0:14.3

click and a bang you don't remember the name

0:17.5

what's up ladies and gentlemen boys and girls around the world I would like to

0:21.4

welcome you back to the real talk with

0:23.5

Zubi podcast and today I am going live with the one and only Phil demers

0:29.1

welcome to the show man how you doing?

0:30.5

I'm great Zubi. Thanks for having me.

0:33.0

Awesome.

0:34.0

So for people who have not heard about you, how do you describe yourself, Phil?

0:40.0

I am a former marine mammal trainer, so I used to work with whales and dolphins and sea lines much like in the old

0:47.1

Commercials for sea worlds you used to see people jumping off the orchas and whatnot in the US and North America and I worked at a place called

0:54.2

Marine Land in Canada. So it would be I guess what you would most closely

0:58.6

compared to Sea World only it was I like to consider I'd like to call it a day at the spa.

1:04.6

Seawood would be a day at the spa compared to a place like Marine Land.

1:07.6

So, you know, Marine Land existed for a long time and was a celebrated industry,

1:17.2

Wales and zoos and whatnot. So I worked between 2000 and 2012 and while I was working, this strange thing occurred to me where a walrus, a baby walrus that had come into

1:28.2

to Maryland's possession that was wild caught during a sort of traumatic strange process I am printed on her and so what that means

1:36.3

scientifically is as a herd animal an animal that in the wild will need to be able

1:41.3

to identify its mother in a in you know in in herds of thousands.

1:45.7

What happens is my scent my my the what I look like what I sound like everything

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