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1309: The Pale-Faced Lie part 2

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

Society & Culture, True Crime, Technology

4.72.6K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2023

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Previously on PRETEND, we heard the story of David Crow and his criminal father, Thurston. In today's episode, we delve deeper into "The Pale-Faced Lie," a memoir about growing up as his father's accomplice.  David's father, Thurston Crow, lived a life of crime: stealing, lying, and killing anyone who stood in his way. And right beside him, the whole time, was his young son David. In this episode, hear David's story of overcoming a life of crime and trying to understand why the one person he trusted most in the world took advantage of him. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

...creative battle.

0:30.0

Previously, I'm pretend we heard the story of David Crowe and his criminal father, Thurston.

0:40.0

My show is about con artists, you know, would you consider your father a con artist?

0:45.7

The best.

0:46.7

The best.

0:48.4

David Crowe is the author of the Pale Face Lie, a memoir about growing up as his father's

0:53.0

criminal accomplice.

0:55.3

In the previous episode, David describes a time he helped his father bury a body.

1:00.3

It's like a human body to me wrapped in a tarp and they go and they start digging and

1:05.7

digging and digging.

1:06.7

And I said, oh, I can tell that's human blood on your clothing.

1:09.8

There's human blood on that duffle bag.

1:12.0

If a policeman stops us, there's evidence.

1:15.3

David's father, Thurston Crowe, lived the life of crime, stealing, lying and killing anyone

1:20.5

who stood in his way.

1:22.1

And right beside him, the whole time was this young son, David.

1:26.8

We start driving and dad and I start arguing.

1:29.0

The first time I've ever really talked back and I said, that had to be a human body.

1:33.7

And he said, none of your damn business, I said sure it is, I'm an accomplice.

1:37.6

He said, you're not accomplice to anything, you're just an idiot, son that I own and you're

1:42.4

going to drive and you're going to shut up.

1:45.5

This is one man's story of overcoming a life of crime and trying to make sense of why

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