1308: Benn Jordan | The Surveillance State Stalking You Without Consent
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ποΈ 7 April 2026
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Summary
Over 100,000 cameras are quietly tracking your movements and feeding the data to police. Benn Jordan is here to explain why that should terrify you.
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What We Discuss with Benn Jordan:
- Flock Safety's network of over 100,000 license plate readers logs every car that passes, creating a searchable 30-day surveillance profile β and when mixed with consumer data, social media, and criminal records, it builds a disturbingly complete picture of your life that you never consented to.
- The security on these cameras is shockingly weak β many run on a version of Android deprecated in 2021, and law enforcement accounts were found for sale on the dark web, meaning hackers, stalkers, and foreign actors can access the same footage as police with minimal effort.
- Surveillance data is already being weaponized in unexpected ways β from Texas police tracking women suspected of seeking out-of-state abortions to insurance companies and banks using AI-scraped "open source intelligence" to quietly deny you a mortgage or jack up your premiums without ever telling you why.
- The Hawthorne effect β the phenomenon where behavior changes when observed β means mass surveillance doesn't just watch us, it fundamentally alters how we live, learn, and express ourselves, eroding the private, judgment-free spaces where people practice new skills, take creative risks, and simply exist as themselves.
- Development of "adversarial noise attacks" β tech that makes AI hear gibberish when it tries to train on protected music β is a powerful reminder that you don't have to wait for lawmakers to protect your rights. With creativity and a DIY mindset, individuals can fight back against invasive technology using the very tools that were built to exploit them.
- And much more...
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| 0:53.2 | Today on the show, imagine a company |
| 0:55.1 | putting a GPS tracker on your car. Now imagine they tell you it's for public safety and the cops |
| 1:00.8 | get access to it and private companies get access to it and the database quietly mixes your driving |
| 1:05.9 | history with consumer data, social media activity, photos, criminal records, whatever else they can buy. |
| 1:11.3 | Now, imagine the system is so poorly secured that hackers can get into it in under 30 seconds. |
| 1:16.8 | Tonight's guest discusses exactly that. |
| 1:19.1 | Ben Jordan is a technologist. |
| 1:20.9 | That's the term we're using these days, I suppose, for hackers, musician and security |
| 1:25.1 | researcher, all euphemisms, except for a musician, I suppose, |
| 1:28.3 | who decided to take a closer look at the massive network of automated license plate readers |
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