So if you're tuning into this podcast, you're alive, I would presume, which means you've lived

through all your toughest days so far. You've survived your toughest days. You've had some good

ones, but you have survived your toughest days, which makes you mentally tough. But are you as

mentally tough as you can possibly be? Are you prepared

to face tough days ahead? You can survive them, but can you thrive in them? Author Amy Moran, who is

a therapist, believes that you can not only survive but thrive. And she ought to know. She went through the death of her mother,

which was sudden. Then the death of her young husband, 26 year old, had a heart attack. And then

she was facing another in-law's cancer diagnosis. And she was in a dark place. And she sat down and

wrote a list of the 13 things.

She didn't start with the number 13 in mind.

She just wrote a list of things that mentally tough people don't do.

Things they don't do.

Not what they do, but what they don't do.

And it helped her.

And it went viral.

And now she's got six books.

And her most recent is about the 13 Things Mentally Tough couples don't do.

She's a fascinating person and her books are so worth reading.

And we're going to get into it with her next.

Welcome to the

michelle to foya podcast amy moorne thank you for joining us i got to ask why the number 13 good

question so there was no magic meant to be in the number. I had written a letter to myself

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