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done i'm alicia your hostess on this journey all things dominn. Thanks so much for joining me today and a little

bit of a departure from true crime. We have been heavy on true crime over the last few episodes,

and quite frankly, as we are in the middle of moving homes, there's enough true crime in my

current life with sorting and packing, my past and my future. True crime was not the

only genre Dominic Dunn was into. He plays high society, sure, but Hollywood, y'all. Come on,

this is the kid with Aunt Harriet who loves it all and makes his career in name in Hollywood

living the high life. In some remarkable pieces for

Vanity Fair, as well as published in Fatal Charms and Mansions of Limbo, Dominic will write some

fascinating portraits of his lady friends from Hollywood. We have talked about one of these already,

the legendary Elizabeth Taylor.

Today it is time for another legend, Ava Gardner.

Dominic talks with Ava Gardner in the spring of 1984, with Vanity Fair publishing his recollections in their vanities column in a piece called Ava Now in June of that same year.

And remembering back to a previous done-and-done

episode, you recall the Dominic Dunn, Frank Sinatra, Bruhaha. Frank Sinatra is Ava Gardner's third

husband. Dominic and Frank have a longstanding feud. How do we get to this particular interview

of Dominic's with Ava Gardner, Love Goddess of Hollywood?

Let's investigate.

Music Oh, Ava Gardner, I do love her story.

I'm going to open the episode with Dunn's writing here from the beginning of Ava now.

Let's not talk about Mickey or Artie or Frank, she said,

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