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Pretty sweet, huh? We are getting ready to open open up now so grab a plate full from the buffet by the way you now owe us 4995 each It is Tuesday, April 12th, 2016, and this is Lucky Episode 13 of Backside of Magic.

I'm Ryan, with me as always is my co-host, Jeremy. Jeremy, how are you today?

I'm doing all right, Ryan. How are you doing today?

I am well. Glad to hear it. Last week was actually pretty exciting for me. I got to go on the Mighty Men of Mouse show.

You know, spending a little time at the top of the mountain was very exciting. I don't generally mind ruining our own show, but was a little nervous about ruining theirs.

But I think it went okay. And Dutch and Russ and Kip were really gracious

and a lot of fun to talk to. So to all zero of our listeners that don't listen to their show,

make sure you do listen to their show because they knock it out of the park every week,

particularly when I'm not dragging it down. Yeah, I was particularly pleased that

you came back and were still willing to do this show now that you've been up to the big leagues,

as they say. All right, well, best get to it for follow-ups. Last week, you in particular had

mentioned that you had seen a lot of chatter regarding Rivers of Light.

And so as you noted, cast members were sort of scoffing at coming out on time.

And true to form, the morning of our show that our show came out last week.

They announced that Rivers of Light was in fact delayed sort of indefinitely saying check back with us in May, maybe we'll tell you something.

Yeah, thank goodness we hedged there because we looked dumb enough from time to time and we

covered our bases there and Chatter had it right on that one.

Absolutely. I have a follow up and that is I had noted on maybe three or four shows

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