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#1295 Too Né

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Society & Culture, History

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2018

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

"Too Né's data wound up in the journals and all of it is on the map, and the map deepens the journals, and the journals deepen the map."

— Clay S. Jenkinson

This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, we feature an extended conversation about the recently discovered map from the Lewis and Clark Expedition drawn by an Indigenous guide named Too Né. The map was found in the Bibliothèque nationale de France, and it's the subject of an entire issue of the Lewis and Clark Trail Heritage Foundation's journal, We Proceeded On.

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0:00.0

Good Day citizens and citizens and thank you for listening.

0:09.0

This week, oh one of my favorite subjects, archaeology history, we talk about Tuni and the map discovered in France.

0:19.6

When you think about the Indian peoples that Lewis and Clark met, You think of the Shoshoney and the Mandan and the Lakota and the Klatsup. You don't normally put the

0:29.7

Eurykara high on your list. They deserve a much higher place on anyone's list than they have had.

0:35.4

And this fellow from the University of New Mexico, a man named Dr. Christopher Steinke,

0:39.8

discovered in the Institute Nasciinoza France a map that this man, Tooney, the

0:46.3

Arichora, who traveled with Lewis and Clark for a time, drew for them.

0:50.3

It actually has an image of the keel boat on it.

0:52.5

It has stick figures of Lewis and of Clark.

0:55.1

He drew a map for them.

0:56.7

He took that map to Washington, D.C.

0:59.4

He died in Washington, D.C.

1:00.8

Unfortunately, it was buried there. That map has disappeared for more than 200

1:05.1

years, David, and it was recently rediscovered. And I devoted this whole May issue of

1:12.3

we proceeded on the official journal of the Lewis and Clark

1:14.8

world which people can subscribe to by going to the Great Falls site. I devoted the

1:18.4

whole issue to this extraordinary map and I knew the minute I started working on this that you would find it fascinated.

1:25.6

Oh and I really did and really that's what we talk about this week and you can find out more about we proceeded on the Lewis and Clark Trail Heritage Foundation

1:36.7

and how to join so you can get copies of we proceeded on.

1:40.7

If you go to Jefferson Hour.com and there's also a pretty high resolution

1:45.5

copy of Tune's map that you can see at that website and while you're there I'll

1:50.1

keep it just real I won't even do the voice and just say

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