129: Star Wars (4k77 Version) Pt. 2
A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast
A More Civilized Age
4.9 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 19 March 2026
⏱️ 146 minutes
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Summary
We return with the back half of a little movie called Star Wars.
We can finally talk about some of the most foundational moments in the franchise. The very first lightsaber duel--and its relationship to a little tv show called Obi-Wan Kenobi. The series' three protagonists finally sharing screen time. The Death Star trench run and its relationship to the Force and Technology.
But we also get to talk about some of the stuff that gets lost along the way. Like about just how funny Star Wars has always been. How the Empire is already a bit of a send-up of bureaucrat sci-fi baddies. And how whether Lucas knew the particularities of their history or not, Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi show up with enough ambiguity and depth to carry years and years of storytelling to come.
Show Notes

George Lucas: The Wizard of 'Star Wars' | Rolling Stone
REBEL SCANNERS: Preserving Star Wars (with Rob of TEAM NEGATIVE 1)
Hosted by Rob Zacny (robzacny.bsky.social)
Featuring Alicia Acampora (ali-online.bsky.social), Austin Walker (austinwalker.bsky.social), and Natalie Watson (nataliewatson.bsky.social)
Produced by Austin Walker
Music by Jack de Quidt (notquitereal.bsky.social
Cover art by Xeecee (xeecee.bsky.social)
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Let us return once more to a more civilized age, a Star Wars podcast. |
| 0:12.6 | I'm Rob Zakening, joined by Aliaqinpora, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson. |
| 0:17.9 | We are, as always supported by you, our listeners, via patreon.com slash civilized. |
| 0:22.4 | So head over there if you like to support the show and get access to all our Q&A episodes |
| 0:26.7 | and various other special editions. |
| 0:30.2 | So today we pick up right where we left off, made it halfway through Star Wars and New |
| 0:35.3 | Hope. |
| 0:36.6 | The boys were just getting sucked into the space station and pulled into the Imperial |
| 0:42.7 | Docking Bay. |
| 0:44.3 | And over the course of this episode, we're going to see their daring escape and then a big |
| 0:49.9 | space battle. |
| 0:52.2 | I don't think we did the recap last time. |
| 0:54.0 | You know what it is. You know what it is. |
| 0:55.2 | You know what it is. |
| 0:56.0 | You know what's happening. |
| 0:56.8 | Yeah, we don't need to go through a whole recap again. |
| 1:01.4 | But we will need one for Empire next time, Rob. |
| 1:04.1 | So. |
| 1:04.8 | Yeah. |
| 1:05.3 | Okay. |
| 1:05.9 | It's making sure. |
| 1:08.5 | Yeah, it's fun. |
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