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The Peter McCormack Show

#129 - Shanker Singham - The Case for Radical Economic Reform

The Peter McCormack Show

Peter McCormack

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4.82.7K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 108 minutes

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Summary

Shanker Singham is a trade lawyer, competition expert, and one of the UK's most respected economic minds.

In this wide-ranging conversation, we unpack why Britain's economy has become uncompetitive, how regulation has locked out innovation and what needs to change.

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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 – Why Economic Policy Matters  
00:03:30 – Liberty, Rights & Prosperity  
00:07:15 – Regulation Kills Growth  
00:10:30 – What GDP Really Measures  
00:15:10 – Cronyism vs Real Competition  
00:21:00 – Why Government Is Unaccountable  
00:25:00 – The Deep State Problem  
00:30:00 – How the UK Wasted Brexit  
00:35:45 – The Truth About Tariffs  
00:41:00 – Trade, Distortions & China  
00:45:10 – America's Tariff Strategy Explained  
00:52:00 – Why Global Growth Has Slowed  
00:58:20 – Education, Economics & Free Markets  
01:05:00 – We Don't Teach Liberty  
01:10:00 – Language, Truth & Marxism  
01:14:00 – Why 'Capitalism' Is a Trap  
01:18:30 – Fiat Money vs Voluntary Exchange  
01:25:00 – Bitcoin, Inflation & the Fiscal Distortion  
01:30:00 – AI, Labor Markets & Collapse  
01:36:30 – The Future of Work  
01:42:00 – The Philosophy of Prosperity  
01:46:30 – Final Thoughts

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Very much the old thinking of there's always going to be this number of jobs, so we just need to protect them more.

0:07.0

And I was saying, well, with AI and with all of these things, there's huge pressure on young people in the marketplace.

0:15.0

They need to be able to have maximum flexibility because they want to be able to have multiple.

0:20.0

They're going to have multiple lines of revenue.

0:21.7

That's how they're going to live. It's going to be lots of different things. This idea that there's a single job, you go in at nine and you leave at five. I mean, that may be true for 50, 60 year olds, but it's not going to be true for 20 and 30 year olds anymore. So you need to have lots of flexibility. So you take away their flexibility and you take away those jobs, which is what the employment rights bill will do, then you're

0:41.9

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1:27.3

All right. Good afternoon. Shankar, how are you? Good. Very good. Thank you for having me back.

1:30.9

Yeah. Good to see you. Last show we did was very popular. I think in some ways this is a better time

1:39.2

to be making a show on economics because it's a subject that's at the heart of a lot of the

1:44.1

problems in the country at the heart of a lot of the problems in

1:44.6

the country at the moment. An open question of you, is economic policy the most important

1:50.6

thing a government has to get right? Well, you know, I think there are many things the

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