Hey, everybody. We got a great one today, you know, for a change. And this time, this time I mean it,

because I have two of my favorite guests, Molly Jong Fast, whose podcast, Fast Politics,

is fun and entertaining, and the fun and entertaining Mark Leibovitch of the Atlantic

Monthly on the Republican debate in Milwaukee and on Tucker Carlson's interview with former

President Trump on Twitter or X, I guess.

First, I must admit, I'm a little freaked out by Trump's mugshot.

So sinister.

You know he practiced it.

A friend said in front of a mirror, but I think he practiced it staring at a picture of Melania.

That's not fair.

No one knows what's going on inside someone's marriage.

But the jury will see that, and I know he's sending off.

I'm angry at this completely bogus indictment,

but I think it reads, holy shit, this guy is a psychopath.

Anyway, Mark Leibovich was actually in Milwaukee for the Republican debate, which adds a little color.

And he was in the spin room where surrogates for the campaign spin reporters on how their candidate did.

Molly watched the debate on color TV as I did.

So you'll get our reactions to the debate and more my reaction to the Trump Tucker interview,

which I watched in its entirety.

And I would recommend you're watching it unless you're worried about getting depressed

or freaked out if you weren't already depressed or freaked out by the debate.

But the Carlson interview with Trump is insane. There's a section I play where Trump insists

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