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The Rest Is Money

129. How Serious Is The UK’s Debt Mess?

The Rest Is Money

Goalhanger Podcasts

Business, Politics, News, Tech News

3.8903 Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Steph and Robert are joined by Dr Gerard Lyons, an influential economist and Bank of China board member, to discuss whether Rachel Reeves is wise to ask China to invest in the UK, whether the Chancellor will need to come back for more tax rises later this year and what he really advised Liz Truss to do. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to the Rest Is Money with me, Steph McGovern.

0:59.3

And with me, Robert Paston.

1:02.6

So today we're joined by Dr. Gerard Lyons.

1:05.2

Someone we've both interviewed quite a lot in the past.

1:06.8

He's a renowned global economist.

1:12.2

He's had quite the career, really, because he's done everything from advising Boris Johnson when he was London Mayor.

1:18.0

You know, he's someone who regularly pops up at prestigious forums like the IMF and the World Economic Forum.

1:23.3

He currently sits on the board of the Bank of China, so really interesting stuff to ask him around that.

1:27.2

And he is currently chief economic strategist at Netwell. And he's also got a podcast as well with his daughter,

1:29.8

the brilliant comedian Elf Lyons, called Elphanomics.

1:34.1

Look, I've known Gerard forever.

1:35.9

I'm not going to say quite our long because that would give too many clues about my age.

1:40.4

Look, he's an interesting character.

1:43.4

So just before we got into the calamitous Liz Truss-Quarteng mini-budget,

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