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Russell why is it then when people start getting like super spiritual

they start dressing like you?

You dress like a guru.

We circulate a memo so it's now time to stop wearing socks, stop shaving, and make eye contact for a bit too long.

Oh, uncomfortable eye contact.

A bit scary.

How long are you going to go with the beard?

I mean, that's like, you're full on, like, you're a yogi now.

I mean, it's gone beyond Jesus and into Moses and lesser prophets, Old SEAL you're in that range too like you could be some

wild man that's that's a mistake that wouldn't like if there was an assault

course in front of us that the potential for moving a Navy seal would start to break down.

I once went on an assault course with some US Marines in that place near San Diego.

I can't remember the name of that base and climbing up that rope using your leg muscles,

it was not good value.

Did enjoy it?

I like the camaraderie and I really like, like I've written about and talk about quite a lot when I'm around very in very male

environments I kind of really like it I really get off in it but I have to watch myself not getting too excitable. It's even in this

environment as a matter of fact I have to keep myself a little bit chilled out.

Why? What do you mean? What does it do to you? Well I guess what it is is my early life I grew up mostly around my mom and I don't have brothers and sisters and stuff like that so my male role modeling occurred later in life and I think it probably relates to this spiritual thing. I think it meant

that I was very open to sort of spiritual experience meditative experience. I didn't have a lot of

grounding physical experiences or bodily experiences really till adolescence and

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