Good Day Thomas Jefferson Hour podcast listeners and welcome to this week's broadcast.

Yes what?

Sally Hemings.

We got a question from Geno Secula and I predicted at the beginning of the show that we might not make it past one question and we didn't.

You know, we record this in the shadow of the Stormy Daniels interview on 60 minutes.

So glad you didn't even bring that up.

And now you have.

Well, but we do this and with

with with McDougal the former playmoyt playboy playmett of the year we do this in the

shadow of bill Clinton's life and so on. And you can hear the weariness in my voice

because there are so many things of much, much, much greater importance for us to talk about in the politics of

2018 and so many more important things for us to talk about in Jefferson's life

and achievement. And the politics of 1800 but it is an interesting discussion we kind of it's kind of awkward even to get into it my biggest point is that I

continually am upset by historians who state things as fact when they're not in fact fact.

But you know between the first time I started reading about Jefferson in the 1970s and say around 1980 those same historians were saying it didn't

happen couldn't have happened it's the most outrageous sensational nonsense and

crap-ol-that I've ever heard.

And now you have historians on the other side saying it's obviously true,

of course it's true, no one can deny that it's true.

And so you have this weird yo-yo effect where people

always pretend more certainty than we actually have. What I like to say is that

history is like a picture puzzle and half of the pieces or more are missing and then we're supposed

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