In the consult, we discuss cases involving violence, sexual violence, abduction, and murder.

Sometimes the cases we discuss involve children.

Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to the consult. I'm Julia Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler, and I'm joined by my colleagues.

Angela Serser.

And Bob are also retired profilers, and we work together in the FBI's behavioral analysis unit.

Also joining us today is Dr. Page Wilcoxson. You may remember Paige from a previous episode where we discussed

what true crime often gets wrong about forensic psychology. Page also worked in the behavioral

analysis unit while completing her doctorate. So welcome back, Paige.

Thank you. It's very nice to be here with all of you today. I'm excited to have you

here. I invited Paige to return because I thought it would be especially valuable to examine

a serial killer through two distinct but complementary lenses, behavioral analysis and psychological

analysis. And this is very much how we worked cases in the

BAU, collaborating with outside experts to better understand an offender's background motivations

and internal functioning rather than just relying on a single framework. Before we get started,, I want to remind listeners if you'd like early and add-free

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So, the case page suggested we study is Jeffrey Dahmer.

For those who don't know, Dahmer was a serial killer operating primarily in Wisconsin with

one early homicide in Ohio. His series began in 1978 and ended with

his arrest in Milwaukee in 1991. Over that period, he murdered 17 men and boys, many of whom were

black and gay. Dahmer typically lured his victims to his residence with promises of

money or intimacy. Once there, he drugged them, killed them, and sexually abused their bodies. His crimes

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