Marsha and Saga here welcome back to the Realignment.

FIBING wants to reset the Democratic Party, want to reset our sort of political culture,

but he also wants to have this bigger policy change and that's the FBR part of it.

Is he the last president of the, you know, post of the Reagan era, or is he the first

president?

I don't know.

I'm not talking about that.

I'm not talking about that.

I'll answer the question.

Yes.

We have an awesome episode with Edward Isaac Dobaray of The Glanic on his new book Battle

for the Soul inside the Democrats' campaigns to defeat Trump.

Now anyone has been following this show since the start knows that around 2018-2019, Saga

and I became obsessed with how the various facets of the Realignment for policy, globalization,

class structure, higher education were changing the Republican Party, but we haven't got that

much for chance to have that entire discussion along the lines of the Democratic Party.

So this conversation with Isaac is the perfect way to do it.

I love talking with Isaac because he lived and breathed the Democratic primary from the

ground.

And in a way, that's kind of how I did except from my rising studio.

And so it was awesome being able to hear his reporting from the moments that I remember

so vividly covering for so many of the people on rising.

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